Hi Lutz:
On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> thanks! But now comes the ignorant part from my site :-)
>
> As a non-native speaker, I do understand AFAIK (as far as I know?),
> but what do you mean by fwiw? - sorry
Hence the "wtf" utility:
% fink list wtf
Information about 9261 packages read in 3 seconds.
i wtf 20080626-1 Translates common
Internet acronyms
% wtf fwiw
FWIW: for what it's worth
% wtf afaik
AFAIK: as far as I know
% wtf wtf
WTF: {what,when,where,who,why} the f---
>
> Furthermore, I use coot and Macs and I appreciated more than once
> all your input. Since you did such a wonderful job, I have never
> bothered much with fiddling around with coot. I just took what you
> developed. Therefore, I have to ask the stupid and ignorant
> question: how do I issue a scheme??
You can issue commands in either the scheme scripting language or the
python scripting language.
To issue a scheme command, just do the following:
1. Start coot and go to the "Calculate" menu item.
2. In the pull-down, the second-to-last entry is "Scripting ...". Go
to that and select the "Scheme" option.
3. Paste in the command (zalman-stereo-mode) including the
parentheses into the top window where it says "Command:"
4. Hit the return key and you should now be getting a double image.
> In other words, could you please direct me to your scheme or send it
> to me? I hope that the fact that I still stick to bash and have not
> changed to zsh makes no problem. Again, blame my ignorance!
Don't worry, it has nothing to do with what shell you choose. It will
work the same whether you use bash/zsh/tcsh.
> Sorry for my ignorance
Never apologize for asking questions. If you do a mail search, you
will see that I am the ignorance king.
But if you are feeling adventurous, right-click on the second line of
the menu bar in the blank area next to where it says "Display
Manager". Select "Add a user-defined button" and make yourself a
Zalman Stereo button, and then feel smug about what a power user you
now are.
I think you will need the python version of the command, instead of
the scheme version, which is zalman_stereo_mode()
Note the underscores and different placement of the parentheses.
There is even an appropriate icon in row five, column eight, you can
select when prompted for an icon.
>
> Lutz
>
> Am 19.08.2009 um 20:41 schrieb William G. Scott:
>
>> Hi Lutz:
>>
>> Yeah, that is definitely the problem. That kind of "hardware
>> stereo" is for a CRT and the special video card it needs.
>>
>> Fortunately, we don't need any of that.
>>
>> Try issuing the scheme command
>>
>> (zalman-stereo-mode)
>>
>> AFAIK, it is not yet implemented as a menu item (but you can make
>> one, which is what I did).
>>
>> I am also using the DVI cable and adaptor, fwiw.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> William G. Scott
>>
>> contact info: http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> yes I have a first-generation airbook as well. I started coot,
>>> moved the coot window to the Zalman monitor and used <draw>,
>>> <stereo>, <hardware stereo> to activate it, but as I said coot
>>> "told" me that stereo was not possible. Should I start to force
>>> coot to start on the Zalman? If so, do I have to "make" the Zalman
>>> the primary screen?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Lutz
>>>
>>> Am 19.08.2009 um 19:01 schrieb William Scott:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lutz:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, mine is working with a first-generation airbook. I didn't
>>>> do anything special. How are you activating stereo on coot (what
>>>> command)?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William G. Scott
>>>>
>>>> Contact info:
>>>> http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> many thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Well with pymol the same - near there but only nearly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did two more thing so far. Installed the newest coot release
>>>>> on my airbook and simply connected the Zalman (VGA connector).
>>>>> Here, coot tells me that stereo can not be enabled .... and
>>>>> nothing happend. According to your email to Jürgen, you got it
>>>>> to work on your Airbook. Or am I missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, I checked the quadro compatibility list of Zalman -
>>>>> it ends with the FX 5500, the 5600 is not included. Is that a
>>>>> possible explanation. We have another Mac with the FX 4500
>>>>> installed. According to the list it should be supported (at
>>>>> least on XP).
>>>>>
>>>>> But most of all - I am really interested to learn about the
>>>>> stereo angle :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Lutz
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 19.08.2009 um 16:36 schrieb William G. Scott:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:14 AM, Lutz Schmitt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am probably one of the many people out here who asked you a
>>>>>>> question concerning the Zalman 3D monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We got one yesterday and I upgraded coot to coot 0.6-pre-1
>>>>>>> (revision 2215) running on a Quad-Core Intel with a NVidia
>>>>>>> Qudro FX 5600 (=S 10.5.7). I use the DVI cable, mirroring off
>>>>>>> and the Zalman is the "second" monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Running coot at the highest resolution 1680x1050 and 60 Hz
>>>>>>> (more is not possible according to the monitor settings) I
>>>>>>> have the feeling that I close but not really there. In coot, I
>>>>>>> can see two images, the 3D effect is there but not perfect yet
>>>>>>> and without the polarize glasses the screen flickers. However,
>>>>>>> the situation reminds me of using Crystal eyes and a refresh
>>>>>>> rate, which is too small meaning I am almost there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you can increase the stereo angle. I need to appeal to
>>>>>> Paul or Bernhard for the appropriate command (hence the cc to
>>>>>> the cootbb).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it work ok with pymol?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you know what I am doing wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. Quite possibly nothing. It is also possible you are
>>>>>> seeing the exact same thing as I am, but because of my small
>>>>>> brain and limited cranial capacity, I get a different visual
>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, I still use bash not zsh. Therefore I have not used your
>>>>>>> scripts yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can run any shell script (including zsh functions) by
>>>>>> making it executable and run it in the usual way from one of
>>>>>> the other shells.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lutz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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