Fascinating conversation.
I agree with a lot of what's been said.
Surely the primary arbiter of what happens on OAE programmes should be the end user.
Many leaders/providers do use the medium to get what they want, eg being payed to do
in their work time what they like do in their leisure time.
But many different users want many different experiences.
I have met some who do want to be 'beasted' or look back fondly on near death
experiences (due to another workers risky incompetence). Others have openly
challenged the whole notion of 'stretch' etc.
All in all I find myself more interested in the spiritual adventure that may accompany
sleep deprivation.
If we were to sell a course with that aspect, even maybe employing medical staff or
mental health professionals or known shamanic workers, what would we think of it in
terms of OAE?
Can the outdoors not also provide inner adventure ?
Chris Reed
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