Well, it's not as scary as an aircraft carrier in the ocean, P.  Those ships
look like complete cities, as we see them docked in Norfolk,
VA---awe-filling vessels, indeed.
Thanks Max, for the judiciously-spliced bits of "HVIII" on YouTube.  Here's
Part 2, equally well done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTcFuTwZD8&feature=related

And, Ken, thanks; I'll soon be watching the Keith Michell DVD, so will
comment later.  Meantime, I've ordered [amazon.co.uk, region 2 DVD] David
Starkey's *Six Wives of Henry VIII*, having seen his YouTube documentary on
Margaret Beaufort, H8's paternal grandmother [H7's mom], which I thought
excellent but rather sinister/cynical, but I loved his narrating in [and the
actors' performing in] the original buildings' rooms!

A customer review of David Starkey's *Six Wives of Henry VIII*:

"24 of 24 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars *A fantastic and unique documentary on a well known
story.*, 20 Aug 2007
By little_miss_sunnydale<http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pdp/profile/A27VVQMVKAIMWG/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp>
(South
Gloucestershire, England) - See all my
reviews<http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A27VVQMVKAIMWG/ref=cm_cr_dp_auth_rev?ie=UTF8&sort%5Fby=MostRecentReview>
David Starkey's documentary on the six wives of Henry VIII is a perfect
companion to his written biography on the same subject.

The documentary is made up of four episodes; the first dedicated to
Catherine of Aragon, the second to Anne Boleyn, the third to Jane Seymour
and Anne of Cleves and the last to Katherine Howard and Katherine Parr. The
first two wives are covered well and Starkey is great at examining Henry's
prolonged divorce to Catherine of Aragon and the arguments and political
events that dominated it. He attempts to presents Anne Boleyn in a fair
light and to show her remarkable nature. He also raises the plausible theory
that Anne and Henry were married in Nov 1532 at Dover which is something he
argues in his written work and has supported rather well.

Starkey also covers Katherine Howard very well and refers to her behaviour
during and particularly before marriage which contemporaries deemed as
scandalous. Yet while he often criticises her for her lack of queenly
behaviour he retains sympathy over her demise.
Katherine Parr is presented in a brilliant way; Starkey dispels the idea
that she was merely a nurse to Henry, but that she was a woman of
convictions and a mission. She is also presented as an intelligent woman who
survived the conservative faction's conspiracy to remove her, and of course
survived Henry.

Anne of Cleves and Jane Seymour's individual faiths are examined and as is
their individual importance to different factions at court. Although their
episode is perhaps not as good as the others, its still interesting as it
looks at the role of factions at court and in the case of Anne of Cleves,
England's decisions in foreign policy.

Overall this is a great series. You don't have to read Starkey's biography
on these women to follow the programme but it helps as due to time
constraints he can't completely discuss all his theories. The actors are
fantastic, especially the actress playing Anne. The special features are
poor, but this is compensated by the episodes."

Best,

Judy
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2009/7/5 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>

> Canals! Joodles do you realise that crocodiles lurk therein and other worse
> things and watch out for lock gates they have a habit of eating boats
> (narrow) and people
> P your travel guido
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Judy Prince
> Sent: 05 July 2009 07:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Snap chronicular
>
> Martin Dolan's back!  How could we know that blue ice would bring you back?
> Any snaps?  How are you doing?
>
> This week we tried to attract blue ice to our old car in Loughborough for
> insurance claim purposes but only managed to encounter in a high street car
> park an enraged yelling Huge Male Person who'd just found a 25 GBP
> penalty-for-overtime ticket affixed to his windscreen.  We hurried away,
> pretending [like regular British people] not to notice his screaming and
> crashing things; however, 'twas hard to forget the image.  But I'm
> confident
> that next week's narrowboat canal trip northwards oughter erase that vision
> of a modern-day raging Henry VIII, who is my current Historic Figure of
> Awesome Fascination [best portrayal seen so far:  East End boxer-actor Ray
> Winstone in 2003 *Henry VIII* film writ by Peter Morgan, directed by Pete
> Travis, w Helen Bonham Carter as Anne Boleyn; and the most ably researched,
> fascinatingly written book about him:  Carolly Erickson's *Great Harry*
> historical biography].
>
> Best,
>
> Judy
>
> 2009/7/4 Martin Dolan <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > Yep. They call it 'blue ice'. Rare occurrences, but real.
> >
> > Martin D
> >
> >  Anyone remember what they call those 'gifts' from the sky?
> >> jbp
> >>
> >> 2009/7/2 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> eek, spare me that fate! Though I am developing a set of pieces on that
> >>> line, the formatting will probably mean I'll put them up as a .pdf on
> my
> >>> site.
> >>>
> >>> I have to note that at the supermercado this afternoon a local paper
> was
> >>> shouting about a block of ice falling from the sky and wrecking a
> parked
> >>> car
> >>> near Loughborough.
> >>>
> >>> (it was from a passenger jet ...)
> >>>
> >>> 2009/7/2 Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> which will lead to...?
> >>>>
> >>>> Agree with the others, Dave, you can be 'our' chronicler, week by week
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> into
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> what the years will hold....
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug
> >>>> On 1-Jul-09, at 1:39 PM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> And more than one ghost was seen in more than one pub
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> In this year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Douglas Barbour
> >>>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> >>>>
> >>>> Latest books:
> >>>> Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >>>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> >>>> Wednesdays'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> What in the world we see
> >>>> is what's important.
> >>>>
> >>>>               Richard Caddel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> David Bircumshaw
> >>> "Nothing can be done in the face
> >>> of ordinary unhappiness" - PP
> >>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> >>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
> >>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
> >>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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