David, U R a bloody nut. thx for the fun, as ever. initial uprights, oh
yeah.
joodles
2009/6/18 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> kasper
> I think It vARies iN itS IMPORtance.
> for sure. there is some;thing c
> logged/ in how people R
> ATTached to those initial uprights, consistencies etc but I always (well in
> once in a while)
>
> as myself I mean ask myself
>
> did People in the 18th century think in all those mercantile-capitalised
> Nouns? do Germans likewise?
>
> best
>
> bright and shiny in the morn
>
> dave
>
> 2009/6/18 kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > I have a personal interest in this general subject, since I stopped
> > capitalising quite soon in my poetry. I've also thought a lot about that
> > phenomenon, in poetry in general but mostly as it applies to what I
> > produce.
> > I might come up with a more sober answer when it isn't three o'clock in
> the
> > morning.
> >
> > KS
> >
> > 2009/6/16 Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > I found the following by browsing on the net:
> > >
> > > Alberto Rios, Department of English, Arizona State University
> > >
> > > http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/resourcebank/capitalizing/<
> > http://www.public.asu.edu/%7Eaarios/resourcebank/capitalizing/>
> > >
> > > American poets often stopped capitalizing their lines beginning loosely
> > > with
> > > the second half of the 20th Century, a period generally associated with
> > > free
> > > verse.
> > >
> > > Why poets even did this has essentially been lost to us, beyond the
> > > historicity of being able to say that poets just always did this.
> > >
> > > The idea of a breath being taken, or a dramatic point being made, may
> > also
> > > be a useful consideration in trying to understand line breaks.
> > >
> > > by Darksied on everything2:
> > > http://everything2.com/title/Capitalization%2520in%2520poetry
> > >
> > > capitalization stems from the necessity to
> > > emphasize<http://everything2.com/title/emphasize>particular words or
> > > phrases on paper that were accented by the speaker that
> > > the stories were taken from.
> > >
> > > This way of looking at an author's works was brought about by E. E.
> > > Cummings<http://everything2.com/title/E.%2520E.%2520Cummings>at a time
> > > when there was a formatting standard being developed. It was he
> > > that aided in stopping that trend <http://everything2.com/title/trend
> >.
> > >
> > >
> > > Undoubtedly the most complete answer is by Baron Wormser and Daivd
> > Cappella
> > > in Teaching the Art of Poetry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://books.google.com/books?id=oBj4n3Fb0dMC&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=poetry+capitalization+why&source=bl&ots=5ChRHSShYW&sig=ddI93g8rKc8TukRQDEJVFMQjI-E&hl=en&ei=Lng3St_hOo6c_AbotOjdDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10#PPP1,M1
> > >
> > >
> > > In fact, the convention of capitalizing the first word of a line was
> not
> > > firmly established until the late fifteenth century when William Caxton
> > > became the first printer of books in England. The capitalizing of the
> > first
> > > word in a line hearkens to the roots of the word "verse" (from the
> Latin
> > > "versus") which refers to the furrow a plow or hoe makes in a field.
> One
> > > row
> > > in a field turns back to another row ("versus" literally means
> "turning")
> > > and the lines of a poem were likened to such rows. The beginning of a
> > "row"
> > > in a poem was noted by a capital letter. Indeed a poem typically
> returns
> > to
> > > the left margin so that the lines are uniform the way the rows of a
> field
> > > are uniform. This may seem far-fetched but it is a convention to which
> > the
> > > majority of poets have subscribed over centuries. They like how the
> > capital
> > > letter declares a new line; how it increases the sense of the ine as a
> > > distinct, rhythmic unit; and how it promotes a uniformity that igves
> the
> > > poem a decidedly polished look. No vagaries need apply.
> > > Many poets to not adhere to this convention. [...]
> > > This attitude toward capital letters in poetry, has become common and
> was
> > > pioneered by e.e.cummings in the 1920s.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Anny Ballardini
> > > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/
> > > http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome
> > > http://www.lulu.com/content/5806078
> > > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html
> > > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing
> > > star!
> > > Friedrich Nietzsche
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> David Bircumshaw
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> of ordinary unhappiness" - PP
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