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Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's Pre-Rapahelite website

From:

Cristiano Bianchi | Keepthinking <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:47:34 +0100

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Hi Michael,

you are right on those, but then, not even Flash works there - on most  
of the ones you mention.

So what shall we do - avoid 'deeper' interactive features just because  
they are not 100% compatible with everything? How about people who are  
forced to use IE6? Should we develop just of IE6 and forget even about  
standard compliance and RSS and the whole of what happened in the last  
9 years since IE6 was released?

I also have an iPhone and I don't understand it when people develop a  
whole site in Flash these days - there is reason for it. But when it's  
an add-on I cannot see on my iPhone or Nokia E75 (Symbian, slow as  
hell :-), hey sooner or later I'll get back to my office and use my  
Mac to see what I was missing. I really don't understand what is the  
big deal?

Cross platform means a lot of things - but again, the site, as you  
noted, *is* cross platform.  Just 99% of it, not 100%. You can see it,  
enjoy it, use it. For the extra 1% - if you really want it - there are  
free computers everywhere! Come to my office! :-)

Best,
Cristiano







On 26 Jun 2009, at 12:29, Michael Comiskey wrote:

> Hi Cristiano
>
> What about those using other non-MS platforms, such as mobile phones?
>
> If you are asserting that anyone else not using an MS-bnased phone is
> somehow making "a conscious decision of using a niche OS" then a whole
> lot of people using Symbian, Android, etc.-based devices (and not just
> phones these days) may want to have a word with you.
>
> "Cross platform" isn't just code for "what about us beardy Linux
> people?"
>
> Does Silverlight work with Windows Mobile?
>
> Michael
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of Cristiano Bianchi | Keepthinking
>> Sent: 26 June 2009 12:05
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's
>> Pre-Rapahelite website
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> my 8-year old Alfa Romeo takes me everywhere I like (and
>> quite comfortably at that), but if I wanted to compete at
>> Silverstone I'd need a different car. And I know it.
>>
>> I agree that Silverlight is an odd choice - for a simple zoom  
>> facility
>> - but hey, they may have something else in store, for which
>> Flash is not appropriate. We do not know. Yet. They have made
>> a decision and will know its pros and cons.
>>
>> What we do know is that on an average site the number of
>> people coming with Ubuntu (or any other Linux) are, say,
>> 0.0001% of the total. They made a conscious decision of using
>> a niche OS - which has limited multimedia capabilities and a
>> very restricted choice of plugins. So the idea is that the
>> remaining 99.9999% of user should never try something else
>> because of the choice of a very small group?
>>
>> Moreover, the site is 99.9% accessible to everyone - if you
>> want the extra funky bits you have to download something
>> extra. And at doing that - the continuous zoom - I have seen
>> no better tool than Silverlight - it's smooth, fast and
>> efficient. I have seen no comparable Flash example at doing
>> the same. Zoomify or Aleo don't come even remotely close. I
>> would like to be corrected as we are looking for an alternative :-)
>>
>> Best, Cristiano
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 Jun 2009, at 11:18, Michael Comiskey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I just tried the preraphaelites.org website with an Asus
>> Eee 900 with
>>> eeebuntu 3.0 (a tweak of Ubuntu Linux 9.04) using Firefox 3.0.11.
>>>
>>> It works just the same as Firefox on Windows XP SP3 and Firefox 3.0
>>> until one tries to use the zooming viewer.
>>>
>>> The viewer page does not work , but instead presents a "Get
>> Microsoft
>>> Silverlight" button, which upon being selected, sends one to the
>>> Microsoft Silverlight website.
>>>
>>> This then gives a "Microsoft Silverlight may not be
>> supported on your
>>> computer's hardware or operating system" message, which is nice.
>>>
>>> Thus I would give the site full marks for presenting what is a
>>> marvellous collection, but take a bit off for not using a cross
>>> platform technology for the zooming viewer.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of
>>>> Jenny Walklate
>>>> Sent: 26 June 2009 09:25
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's
>>>> Pre-Rapahelite website
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I wondered about silverlight too - is there anything
>> with Linux/
>>>> Firefox compatibility?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
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>>
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> County Museum and W5.
>
> The Ulster Museum is currently closed for major redevelopment.   
> Details of the museum's programme of outreach activities during  
> closure can be found at www.ulstermuseum.org.uk.
>
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>
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