Dear Ritchie
indeed so. I should have pointed out that under UEA regulations, if there
are two external examiners, as is the case if a candidate has been
employed at UEA; if there is no local expertise; or if one of the examiners
is inexperienced (according to
the University's criteria), an Internal Assessor is appointed whose role is
to arrange the viva and ensure that all is carried out according to local
regulations. Meanwhile I understand these regulations no longer permit such
an
assessor to be present, or at least it is no longer the custom for her to
attend.
I have had the supervisor present in Lancaster (under slightly exceptional
circumstances); Oxford Brookes; London (UCL and Germanic Institute).
In Norway, for what it's worth, there is a whole different system operating,
with a (very) public defence and the supervisors (friends, family,
colleagues) in the audience.
best
Jo
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From: "Ritchie Robertson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: PhD viva voce and supervisor
However, Jo, when Jim Simpson and I examined a thesis at UEA around
2000, you were present - not, I think, as supervisor, but as a kind of
faculty friend. I have had the supervisor present at vivas in Leeds and
Liverpool.
Ritchie
Jo Catling wrote:
> At UEA the supervisor is not allowed to be present or take any part in the
> examination process after the external is appointed, and usually hovers
> nervously waiting for the candidate to emerge.
> Consequently it can come as rather as a surprise, externalling at other
> institutions, to find the supervisor present (albeit taking a literal back
> seat)...
> best
> Jo
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *gordon burgess
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:59 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: PhD viva voce and supervisor
>
> Dear All,
>
> Same here. What usually happens is the student and the supervisor
> agree in advance what the student feels more comfortable with. In
> my own experience, the student has always asked me to be present
> as a kind of moral support. The supervisor then asks the internal
> examiner to approach the external examiner as to whether the
> supervisor can be present. I have never known an external examiner
> to go against the wishes of the student in this respect.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Gordon
>
>
> On 26 May 2009, at 17:57, Naomi Segal wrote:
>
>> Dear All
>> In London University the supervisor can be present but is
>> normally expected to keep quiet.
>> *From:* JISCmail German Studies List
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>> *O'Dochartaigh Pol
>> *Sent:* 26 May 2009 17:41
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>> *Subject:* PhD viva voce and supervisor
>> Colleagues,
>> Can I ask whether at your institution the candidate’s PhD
>> supervisor is allowed to be present at the viva voce and, if so,
>> under what conditions?
>> Regards,
>> Pól.
>> Professor Pól Ó Dochartaigh
>> Dean, Faculty of Arts
>> Vice-President, Association for German Studies in Great Britain
>> and Ireland
>> Faculty of Arts
>> University of Ulster
>> Coleraine, BT52 1SA
>> N. Ireland
>> Tel: +44 28 7032 4517
>> Fax: +44 28 7032 4925
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>> Web: www.cutg.ac.uk <http://www.cutg.ac.uk>
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