Hi all,
In case colleagues haven't seen it, UUK did publish a useful information
note giving some more clarification about the recruitment restrictions as
relating to PGTs. Not sure if it provides the info needed in this case, but
attached for info all the same.
Best wishes,
Helen.
--On 17 April 2009 08:31 +0100 Paul Norris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Morning All
>
> I'd mostly agree with John's interpretation here, but don't forget that
> EU students are eligible for student support (through Darlington), so I'd
> be surprised if they weren't included in HEFCE's monitoring.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Norris
> Head of Planning
> University of Bedfordshire
>
>>>> John Busby <[log in to unmask]> 16/04/2009 17:53 >>>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I think we've always interpreted that this would be the case, but I too
> can't find anything that actual explicitly sets this out having looked
> back at HEFCE 32/2008. We also interpret it as including TDA-funded PGCE
> numbers.
> One issue that is also unclear to us is whether, as the restriction has
> its origin in part to contain the cost of the student support package,
> whether any formulaic funding penalty based on over-recruitment (a la
> MASN, if we're unlucky enough to see this) shouldn't be looking solely at
> Home recruitment and not Home AND EU recruitment.
>
>> I'd also be grateful for any views about the recruitment of students from
> collaborative partners direct onto either level 2 or level 3 of a degree
> programme (for example if they have completed an HND under a franchise
> arrangement). Should they count towards the restriction on recruitment?
>
> If we assume that HEFCE will monitor HEFCE-fundable new entrants via
> HESES09, I'd say that para 41 of Annex E of the HESES08 guidance (2008/37)
> would point to these students being counted towards the restriction ... "
> ... those entering directly into the second, or later, year of a course
> should be [included as new entrants]"
>
> Hope that helps,
>
>
> John.
>
>
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> Subject: Restriction on recruitment
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>
> Dear All
> Haas anyone seen any documentation which states that the restriction on
> recruitment of full-time Home/EU undergraduate and PGCE students only
> applies to HEFCE fundable students? The Annex to the recurrent grant
> letter of 2 March 2009 states that we should avoid any further increase in
> full-time undergraduate and PGCE entrants above the level of actual
> admissions in 2008-09 plus any ASNs awarded for 2009/10 by either HEFCE or
> the Training and Development Agency for Schools - does this suggest that
> the restriction applies to TDA funded students too?
>
> I'd also be grateful for any views about the recruitment of students from
> collaborative partners direct onto either level 2 or level 3 of a degree
> programme (for example if they have completed an HND under a franchise
> arrangement). Should they count towards the restriction on recruitment?
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve.
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