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Re: Fwd: [Digital Curation Blog] Repository preservation revisited

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Chris Rusbridge <[log in to unmask]>

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Chris Rusbridge <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:41:48 +0000

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Thanks David, although I have looked through the (145!) questions in  
the DCC-branded subset of that survey without noticing questions that  
directly address what I'm interested in.

I have also looked through the responses to the DCC Evaluation survey  
(75) in total. Again, nothing directly addresses the question.

Similarly the very useful survey report mentioned by Steve Hitchcock  
tells us many useful things but again doesn't really address the  
questions I'm interested in, on whether the repository is resourced  
and policied (!) for the long term, and what role OAIS plays in that.

--
Chris Rusbridge
Director, Digital Curation Centre
Email: [log in to unmask]    Phone 0131 6513823
University of Edinburgh
Appleton Tower, Crichton St, Edinburgh EH8 9LE

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in  
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.



On 10 Mar 2009, at 13:51, Giaretta, DL (David) wrote:

> Chris
>
> It will probably help when we publish the survey results from the  
> PARSE.Insight project which has >2000 responses across disciplines  
> and from researchers, data managers and publishers.
>
> ..David
>
> From: Repositories discussion list [mailto:JISC- 
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of RACHEL HEERY
> Sent: 10 March 2009 12:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [Digital Curation Blog] Repository preservation  
> revisited
>
> Chris
>
> Would it be worthwhile to establish as a first step whether there  
> is an agreed institutional or departmental policy regarding the  
> questions you ask? It is very different getting a repository  
> manager's (or user's) opinion on these issues, as opposed to  
> whether there is an agreed university (or departmental) policy.
>
> So maybe ask as a first question
>
> "Does your repository have an agreed institutional or departmental  
> policy regarding keeping its contents accessible and usable over time?
> If the answer is 'yes' please answer the following questions  
> according to that policy, if 'no' then please give your own opinion."
>
> Of course this would make formulating feedback a bit more complex!  
> it may be that you want a more informal approach to get a 'rough  
> idea' of current thinking. In which case perhaps just ask what role  
> the respondent has wrt the repository, as Andy suggested??
>
> Rachel
>
> Rachel Heery
> Consultant
>
> From: Chris Rusbridge <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Monday, 9 March, 2009 6:27:29 PM
> Subject: [JISC-REPOSITORIES] Fwd: [Digital Curation Blog]  
> Repository preservation revisited
>
> Are institutional repositories set up and resourced to preserve  
> their contents over the long term? Potentially contradictory  
> evidence has emerged from my various questions related to this topic.
>
> You may remember that on the Digital Curation Blog and the JISC- 
> Repositories JISCmail list on 23 February 2009, I referred to some  
> feedback from two Ideas (here and here) on the JISC Ideascale site  
> last year, and asked 3 further questions relating to repository  
> managers’ views of the intentions of their repositories. Given a  
> low rate of response to the original posting (which asked for votes  
> on the original Ideascale site), I followed this up on the JISC- 
> Repositories list (but through oversight, not on the blog),  
> offering the same 3 questions in a Doodle poll. The results of the  
> several different votes appear contradictory, although I hope we  
> can glean something useful from them.
>
> I should emphasise that this is definitely not methodologically  
> sound research; in fact, there are methodological holes here large  
> enough to drive a Mack truck through! Nevertheless, we may be able  
> to glean something useful. To recap, here are the various questions  
> I asked, with a brief description of their audience, plus the  
> outcomes:
>
> a) Audience, JISC-selected “expert” group of developers, repository  
> managers and assorted luminaries. Second point is the same  
> audience, a little later.
>
> - Idea: “The repository should be a full OAIS [CCSDS 2002]  
> preservation system.” Result 3 votes in favour, 16 votes against,  
> net -13 votes.
> - Idea: “Repository should aspire to make contents accessible and  
> usable over the medium term.” Result: 13 votes in favour, 1 vote  
> against, net +12 votes.
>
> b) Audience JISC-Repositories list and Digital Curation Blog  
> readership. Three Ideas on Ideascale, with the results shown (note,  
> respondents did not need to identify themselves):
>
> - My repository does not aim for accessibility and/or usability of  
> its contents beyond the short term (say 3 years). Result 2 votes in  
> favour, none against.
> - My repository aims for accessibility and/or usability of its  
> contents for the medium term (say 4 to 10 years). Result 5 votes in  
> favour, none against.
> - My repository aims for accessibility and/or usability of its  
> contents for the long term (say greater than 10 years). Result 8  
> votes in favour, 1 vote against, net +7 votes.
>
> A further comment was left on the Digital Curation Blog, to the  
> effect that since most repository managers were mainly seeing  
> deposit of PDFs, they felt (perhaps naively) sufficiently confident  
> to assume these would be useable for 10 years.
>
> c) Audience JISC-Repositories list. Three exclusive options on a  
> Doodle poll, exact wording as in (c), no option to vote against any  
> option, with the results shown below (note, Doodle asks respondents  
> to provide a name and most did, with affiliation, although there is  
> no validation of the name supplied):
>
> - My repository does not aim for accessibility and/or usability of  
> its contents beyond the short term (say 3 years). Result 1 vote in  
> favour.
> - My repository aims for accessibility and/or usability of its  
> contents for the medium term (say 4 to 10 years). Result 0 votes in  
> favour.
> - My repository aims for accessibility and/or usability of its  
> contents for the long term (say greater than 10 years). Result 22  
> votes in favour.
>
> I guess the first thing is to notice the differences between the 3  
> sets of results. The first would imply that long term is definitely  
> off the agenda, and medium term is reasonable. The second is 50-50  
> split between long term and the short/medium term combination. The  
> third is overwhelmingly in favour of long term (as defined).
>
> By now you can also see at least some of the methodological  
> problems, including differing audiences, differing anonymity, and  
> differing wording (firstly in relation to the use of the term  
> “OAIS”, and secondly in relation to the timescales attached to  
> short, medium and long term). So, you can draw your own  
> conclusions, including that none can be drawn from the available data!
>
> Note, I would not draw any conclusions from the actual numerical  
> votes on their own, but perhaps we can from the values within each  
> group. However, ever hasty if not foolhardy, here are my own  
> tentative interpretations:
>
> - First, even “experts” are alarmed at the potential implications  
> of the term “OAIS”.
> - Second, repository managers don’t believe that keeping resources  
> accessible and/or usable for 10 years (in the context of the types  
> of material they currently manage in repositories) will give them  
> major problems.
> - Third, repository managers don’t identify “accessibility and/or  
> usability of its contents for the long term” as implying the  
> mechanisms of an OAIS (this is perhaps rather a stretch given my  
> second conclusion).
>
> So, where to next? I’m thinking of asking some further questions,  
> again of the JISC-Repositories list and the audience of the Digital  
> Curation Blog. However, this time I’m asking for feedback on the  
> questions, before setting up the Doodle poll. My draft texts are
>
> - My repository is resourced and is intended to keep its contents  
> accessible and usable for the long term, through potential  
> technology and community changes, implying at least some of the  
> requirements of an OAIS.
> - My repository is resourced and is intended to keep its contents  
> accessible and usable unless there are significant changes in  
> technology or community, ie it does not aim to be an OAIS.
> - Some other choice, please explain in free text…
>
> Are those reasonable questions? Or perhaps, please help me improve  
> them!
>
> This post is made both to the Digital Curation Blog and to the JISC- 
> repositories list...
>
> OAIS: CCSDS. (2002). Reference Model for an Open Archival  
> Information System (OAIS). Retrieved from http://public.ccsds.org/ 
> publications/archive/650x0b1.pdf.
>
> --
> Chris Rusbridge
> Director, Digital Curation Centre
> Email: [log in to unmask]    Phone 0131 6513823
> University of Edinburgh
> Appleton Tower, Crichton St, Edinburgh EH8 9LE
>
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in  
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.

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