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Re: To much information?

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rupert mallin <[log in to unmask]>

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British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:53:11 -0000

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Happy New Year, I agree with all you say here Cris. You are second to none 
in working the internet - the emails, lists, etc. When Mairaed and I were 
co-managing here, you'd previously advised me how to 'handle' the mass of 
emails. Just three years ago there were masses of emails here and it was 
like snow - and I was going through a tough time in life also...

Yes, it is important to discriminte; and yes, we must pursue any reading via 
emails (spam and all) and all sides of the internet - from facebook to 
websites; from soft sell to hard sell.

Until recently I'd constructed the internet in my mind as somekind of huge 
global directory that somehow, like a library, you could find your way 
around. Through my experiences on this List I thought discussion led to more 
discussion.

These notions lead to a commonly heald view: the internet, for all its 
capitalist want, has liberal elements within or thereby. It's a kind of 
level playing field like the Royal Mail.

Weirdly, this List has become Royal Mail. Discussion like envelopes and 
parcels falling to the well in numbers. Yet, I understand: notices here are 
about the activity out there in the real world. Err, but links are 
increasing about an internal internet world - of internet projects rather 
than readings, events, happenings, interventions, etc.

There is a real world. On Saturday up to 100,000 people at short notice 
rallied in London against the US/Israeli massacre of Gaza - the 
Palestinians. UK riot police "kettled" demonstrators once again but the 
biggest deom in UK history for Palestinians. In Norwich 400 marched - 
brilliantly with 200 overseas students from the University of East Anglia 
leading it! This is Norwich, town in a bog, England.

But, overnight hackers (unknown or MI6) had brought down the Stop The War 
website. By March 31st all emails in/via UK will have to b held by service 
providers for a year.

***

I think we're not creating enough fuss! We artists and poets, I don't know 
how important we/me/you are without real life politics - THE SLUMP; WARS IN 
GAZA, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ; UTTER POVERTY IN THE THIRD WORLD; THE SHIT OF THIS 
SYSTEM.

Rupert xxx

http://www.mallin.blogspot.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cris cheek" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: To much information?


> HI all, happy new year looking forwards to us all.
>
> When i first got onto e-lists in 1994-5 there was a trickle. By the  II
> end of 1995-6 i was receiving over 300 e-mails every day and probably 
> sending somewhere in the region of 50 out each day myself. Sometimes  they 
> were substantial messages. I remember being involved with the  spin-off 
> "renga" (we quickly renamed ourselves "rangers") group from  the poetics 
> list out of SUNY Buffalo and we had extended a  proliferating branching 
> tree of versions to the extent that in one  day i received over 100 new 
> versions of the same poem from a  participant friend in Hawaii.
>
> Every nite i would creep into bed to read lengthy new missives from 
> Subcomandante Marcos of the EZLN sent out of the jungle in Chiapas  via 
> the cigarette lighter socket of a jeep.
>
> I HAVE found that since 1999 i read the traffic on lists far less 
> completely. For a start i am on so many lists that i would have no  time 
> left if i did read everything closely. So i use subject headings  and 
> member names as some guide. I check new members when they post  and keep 
> an eye on topic developing. But i am way more random (sort  of) in my 
> participation. Now i have junk filters turned up so  fiercely that i often 
> find mail from people i would like to have read  at the time of sending in 
> my junk box (which i clear periodically and  sometimes use as the stimulus 
> for poems go figure).
>
> I read a lot though. Still read books, teach the proliferation of  many 
> excellent e-zines, am aprt of reading groups outside work  interest and 
> have 5 e-mail accounts bringing in far more than i can  seriously lay 
> claim to have an in-depth knowledge of. But then i read  about 25 online 
> news sources every day too from all parts of the  political spectrum and 
> not just within the west.
>
> reading is FUN!!! i like to play
>
> love and looking forwards
>
>
> cris
> 

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