JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for ARCH-METALS Archives


ARCH-METALS Archives

ARCH-METALS Archives


ARCH-METALS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

ARCH-METALS Home

ARCH-METALS Home

ARCH-METALS  January 2009

ARCH-METALS January 2009

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: LDS scripture and "bathing" a sword

From:

David Lines <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Arch-Metals Group <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:50:26 -0600

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (131 lines)

A transliteration of the Hebrew in Isaiah 34 (from the Interlinear 
Bible) would be "drenched in the heavens". A lot of English translations 
carry the idea of "satiated", or "drunk its fill". It'd be a big stretch 
to get that to include quenching or any other kind of metal work, UNLESS 
some of the old languages used words similar to "satisfy" to describe a 
quenching process. After all, an Englishman might "quench" his thirst 
with a beer, but that doesn't mean he's hardening his throat. But if he 
heats his blade and "quenches" it, it's a whole other story. I'm going 
to put this question to a friend who has studied ancient languages.

David

Bart Torbert wrote:
> This looks like a rehash of verbage in *Isaiah 34.*
> **
> *Bart*
> **
> **
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Arch-Metals Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
>     Behalf Of *Scott Mackenzie
>     *Sent:* Monday, January 05, 2009 2:18 PM
>     *To:* [log in to unmask]
>     *Subject:* Re: LDS scripture and "bathing" a sword
>
>     That was what I gathered….I was wondering if there was any greater
>     significance than I was aware …my gut was right then.
>
>     I appreciate your help. I was just trying to answer the
>     question…At least I provided every one with a good laugh….
>
>     J
>
>     **D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD**
>
>     Technical Specialist - Heat Treating Products
>
>     **Houghton International, Inc.**
>
>     Madison and Van Buren Aves.
>
>     484-467-0285 (cell)
>
>     610-666-4007 (office)
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:* Arch-Metals Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
>     Behalf Of *John Scott
>     *Sent:* Monday, January 05, 2009 4:12 PM
>     *To:* [log in to unmask]
>     *Subject:* LDS scripture and "bathing" a sword
>
>     Helloooo, are you and your correspondent serious? Or, it's not yet
>     April 1....
>
>     Scriptures on golden tablets were reportedly deposited in NE USA
>     at unknown date by angels, then reportedly dug up by Joseph Smith
>     mid-19c CE. Smith reportedly transcribed the scriptures before
>     reportedly losing the tablets, which have to all knowledge never
>     been recovered. The reported transcripts were indeed adopted as
>     LDS scripture and carried west to Missouri and Utah.
>
>     Your most charitable advice to your clients should be that after
>     he identifies Smith's prior sources of religio-history he should
>     get back to you with any phrases worthy of historical - technical
>     study regarding actual production processes.
>
>     On the other hand as a literary image I'd go for simple and
>     direct: the sword must be raised on high -- bathed in heaven --
>     before falling upon etc.
>
>     ~ John
>
>     John Scott
>
>     In a message dated 1/5/2009 2:16:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>     [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>         All:
>
>         I recently received an email from someone who had read a paper
>         I had written on “The History of Quenching”.
>
>         He was reading a passage in Church of the Latter Day Saints,
>         Doctrine and Covenants Section 1, verse 13,
>         http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/1:
>
>         "And the anger <http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/dc/1/13a> of
>         the Lord is kindled, and his sword
>         <http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/dc/1/13b> is //bathed// in
>         heaven, and it shall fall upon the inhabitants of the earth."
>
>         I would gather that this passage would be interpreted as
>         immediately prior to the end of days when the righteous and
>         wicked are separated.
>
>         Is “bathing” a sword prior to battle holding it high to be
>         bless; or is it coating the sword with some material like
>         garlic to impart “special properties”; or is it something
>         entirely different? Could it be implying the quenching process
>         and hardening the blade?
>
>         Is there any historical rituals used by either craftsmen or
>         warriors prior to going in to battle?
>
>         I appreciate the help.
>
>         Scott
>
>         **D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD**
>
>         Technical Specialist - Heat Treating Products
>
>         **Houghton International, Inc.**
>
>         Madison and Van Buren Aves.
>
>         484-467-0285 (cell)
>
>         610-666-4007 (office)
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines
>     <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026>.
>

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager