Hi
We have 15 people waiting to get to detox before they can come to the Ley - seems ridiculous that having presented as a chaotic substance user and wanting to get clean - there are more loop holes to jump! One of our funders has lost the only detox they had for miles. This makes me even more determined to develop a through-put way 'a detox with a difference'! Watch this space.....
Wendy
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>Stewart
>
>I think it's a lack of detox of any kind that has brought about this
>development. Most health boards clearly don't prioritize it so mostly
>it doesn't happen.
>
>
>Rowdy Yates
>Senior Research Fellow
>Scottish Addiction Studies
>University of Stirling
>
>http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4
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>On 10 Jan 2009, at 09:48, "Stewart Dickson"
><[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
>
>> It nay be I thought their was general thread on home detox prior to
>> admission to a TC and that the lack of such was hampering admissions
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rowdy Yates [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 09/01/2009 20:05 GMT
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [EFTC] Methadone residents study
>>
>>
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> Apologies. It was me I think that used SR as shorthand for senior
>> residents. CPNs are community psychiatric nurses. To be honest I
>> still don't understand Stewart's contribution. We were talking I
>> thought, about detoxing TC residents in-house. I remarked that it
>> was unfortunate that TCs should have to consider doing this
>> themselves (although there may actually be benefits as Karen
>> remarked) because the health services were not offering an adequate
>> service. I don't quite see how that led to CPNs holding stocks of
>> methadone for people who are detoxing at home??
>>
>>
>> Rowdy Yates
>> Senior Research Fellow
>> Scottish Addiction Studies
>> Dept. of Applied Social Science
>> University of Stirling
>> Scotland
>>
>> T: +44 (0) 1786-467737
>> F: +44 (0) 1786-466299
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: Therapeutic Communities [THERAPEUTIC-
>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anthony Slater [[log in to unmask]
>> ]
>> Sent: 09 January 2009 18:51
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [EFTC] Methadone residents study
>>
>> Stewart,
>> This might sound like a silly question, but what are "SR or staff,
>> and cpns"?
>>
>> Sorry to ask on the list about this, but I live in Norway and don't
>> understand the terminology.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Therapeutic Communities
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> ] On Behalf Of Stewart Dickson
>> Sent: 9. januar 2009 18:26
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [EFTC] Methadone residents study
>>
>> I was talking about detox in the wider community and from the point
>> of view of cpns working inthe field
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rowdy Yates [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 09/01/2009 15:08 GMT
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [EFTC] Methadone residents study
>>
>>
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>> I'm glad you see their point because I don't!!!!
>>
>> I don't see where home visits comes into it. surely if someone was
>> undertaking a detox as a resident of a TC their methadone would be
>> collected from the pharmacy in the normal way (except, presumably,
>> the individual would be accompanied by SR or staff) and then stored
>> under secure conditions within the TC and administrated by staff.
>> Where do home visits come in?
>>
>>
>> Rowdy Yates
>> Senior Research Fellow
>> Scottish Addiction Studies
>> Dept. of Applied Social Science
>> University of Stirling
>> Scotland
>>
>> T: +44 (0) 1786-467737
>> F: +44 (0) 1786-466299
>> W: http://www.dass.stir.ac.uk/sections/showsection.php?id=4 (home)
>> W: http://www.drugslibrary.stir.ac.uk/ (online library)
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Therapeutic Communities [THERAPEUTIC-
>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stewart Dickson/Social Work/
>> Abdnshire [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 09 January 2009 14:26
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [EFTC] Methadone residents study
>>
>> hi I've followed the discussion with interest as we have problems with
>> waiting times to access programmes and detox . I raised the issue with
>> health colleges who simplified the issues by saying it would man
>> community
>> staff carrying drugs on their person while making home visits and if
>> it was
>> 5 or 6 a day they would be potential targets. I can see their point
>> but I
>> don't think its the whole picture and agree with the view of the
>> politics
>> of service ownership
>> Stewart Dickson
>> Team Manager
>> Criminal Justice Addictions Team
>> 01779499960
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