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Re: mid january is here (free indirect discourse; ETA mid march at least.)

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Christopher C Jones <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:06:51 +1100

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The long lines in the poem not fitting an email format has thrown me off
course.

Anyway, back to my question. Free indirect discourse (FID) is usually
associated with prose fiction and novels but I have read little that
attaches the idea to lyric verse. Perhaps, it could be said that the
weight of lyric verse pulls it toward first person direct. Gravity here
makes lyric verse and free indirect discourse appear to be
contradictions.

Trying to think of examples of FID as lyric verse I am tempted to
suggest Ginberg's Howl. Perhaps where Howl most closely approaches
Aristotle's poetics and becomes most mimetic is where it breaks into a
hysteria that is best understood as FID, where first second and third
person seem to merge and another different voice emerges. Lyric verse
allows for a hysterical jumbling or stacking together of images easily
enough and as a strategy of writing this can be left to unpack or
re-write later in a tighter series. Anyway, again, it seems to me that
hysteria or hysterical voices, since it is plural, may be one of the
more common strategies when it comes to making a single lyric voice
break down into a series of plural voices. At least with lyric verse. I
could see that prose fiction albeit technically different would also use
such a strategy.

Further at the moment that FID enters there is also a break down in the
distinction between lyric and narrative. I can't see that the story
discourse distinction would survive this encounter, as well. A close
reading of Aristotle may be needed but it does seem that this is also
beyond or outside of Aristotle's poetics? A place where the categories
provided are no longer... whatever?

Anyway, just something I have been thinking about, again. Wondering if
other have anything to add, comment etc.

On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 19:13 +1100, Christopher C Jones wrote:
> The mid January heavy dry heat has now settled
> Sketch poem which lead to this follows?
>
> CONCRETE OUT THERE

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