From: "Keith Briggs" <[log in to unmask]>
Remind me please - what does this explain?
At the end of the series of river-names in the Ravenna Cosmography there is
a river named Velox (x for v), previously identified as a Wellow in PN
Hampshire. I think the Wellow-Velox connection is correct. The list is one
of coastal rivers and reads Rex Tamessa (ms. Raxtomessa), Senua (the Alde),
Colunia? (ms. Cunia), then Velox (the Crouch [and Roach]).
Wholve < OE hwealf would explain the -e- of 'Velox'.
The Hampshire Wellow is found in compound in the place-name Bolvelaunio
(Nursling), but I haven't been able to explain this having -o-. There is
Ptolemy's Voliba, a polis of the Dumnonii - Broadbury Castle (at the source
of the Wolf, no early forms). I'd rather not toss it off to scribal error
when both uolue and uelue forms seem to co-exist.
Tom Ikins
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The Roman Map of Britain
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From: The English Place-Name List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Tom Ikins
Sent: 28 December 2008 14:59
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Subject: Re: Warfleet Creek (Dartmouth, Devon, England)
> On Aug 31, 2007 Keith Briggs wrote:
>
> > There was no OE whelm. Perhaps you meant wielm?
> Cf. Toller Whelme, Dorset: on tollor æwylman S975 AD1035 (Fägersten PN
> Do 272).
It turns out that the explanation I was looking for was in CDEPN under
Hullbridge.
"R.n. Wholve, ME wholve 'a passage for water' < OE hwealf 'arch, vault,
concave, hollow', an old name of the CROUCH."
better late, than never
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Tom Ikins
The Roman Map of Britain
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