I guess this posit the quesion about the limits of the social model
paradigm. if society disables the impaired individual, could society
'empower ' him/her to end its participation in society? Would the individual
(whatwever his validity claim, can request such support from the social
group he/she wants top abandom, ind by doing so, opening a door from which
social model activist would be have their validity claims undermined?
If the answer is yes, the individual need to make his/her case by
constructing a different paradigm. So far it is base on a self centrer
phylosophy (on both sides of the argument for and against it) . Best, Andy
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From: "Julia Cameron" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Assisted Suicide
>I haven't posted on this list for ages, but this subject gets me going a
>bit. I can see the validity of the disability movement's arguments, but I
>also share Jeremy's concerns.
>
> Some adults who choose to end their lives can do it themselves without
> asistance from anyone else. However, people with some impairments, often
> those nearing the end of life or with severe dementia, cannot effect this
> choice without the assistance of others. When those people who need
> asistance to end their lives (as assistance may be used by disabled people
> in many other areas of our lives) are also those whose lives contain
> little capacity for pleasure and meaning (because of extreme pain, say, or
> dementia), to withhold the possibility of this assistance seems
> particularly unjust. Why should some disabled people be denied a choice
> which non-disabled (and some other disabled) people can make. We wouldn't
> countenance this in any other area of our lives.
>
> Do people think this is an area where there may be some differences
> between disabled people who have grown up with their impairment and those
> who acquired it as adults? It seems to be those with acquired disability
> who may be more likely to feel their quality of life is so reduced by a
> new or worsening impairment that they want to die.
>
> This said I am not remotely supporting an increase in suicide! In fact
> the opposite - it is desperately sad when anyone feels their life is no
> longer worth living. A more supportive and inclusive society would surely
> increase meaning and connection for everyone, enabling us all to keep
> enjoying and valuing our lives, and reducing the numbers of people both
> disabled and non-disabled who feel they cannot bear any more.
>
> Julia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryant, Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:34 AM
> Subject: Assisted Suicide
>
>
> Dawna wrote:
>
> "That documentary really opened my eyes to the heavy influence the medical
> community has on people with disabilities. Doctors are the ones that
> decide whether someone is in a non-responsive or vegetative state, to make
> the decision that someone will never live a "normal life"
>
> About 2000 years ago (give or take a millennium), a chap called Juvenal
> wrote:
>
> "Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
>
> which, for those of us without Latin (including me) means
> "...but who will guard the guards?"
>
> I think that says it all...
> Helen
>
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