I'd begun to think it was Boodles bcuz of Buddha.  And I think you're
supernatural, Partick.  VB's extraterrestrial.
 I love the new [rented] home!

We're electing Barack Obama over here, celebrating Big Time on Wednesday
probably about 10 at nite USA time [East Coast].  YAY!
Moodles in the desert of LA for a couple more days where it's been raining
for 2 days off and on.  The cactus must need it.

Always your most devoted fandancer!

2008/11/3 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>

> Boodles because you were experimenting with different names (not to do with
> boo!!)
>
> I just get edgy when supernaturals get invoked -of course people can
> believe
> what ever they like  but if they mention to a group we tend to kick things
> around -don't we!
> How's the new home??
>
> My reply was meant to cheerily mention some of my problems
> Bests from Patrick -in wet and windy Raynes Park -VB does not wet and windy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Judy Prince
> Sent: 03 November 2008 15:41
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: "freedom of religion" -----"freedom from religion"
>
> Why 'Boodles'?
> It's a prayer, something I say, usually out loud, to myself, at least every
> morning, and sometimes hundreds of times a day when I feel hopelessly
> emotionally ruffled and nothing else sets me right.  I don't know how it
> would fit your beliefs and practices, though.  Don't honestly know how to
> explain it to you, as I don't know what common beliefs we hold that would
> make explaining helpful or useful to you.
>
> If you think it worthwhile to you, then tell me how to proceed.
>
> Moodles
>
> 2008/11/3 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > Dear Joodles or maybe Boodles
> > who's this cosmic Birther person??  Not caesareans but natural I trust?
> > Do they belong to poetryetc
> > re 'ground and the fruitful vision, the birth, power and fulfillment' we
> > atheists get these all the time in Raynes Park
> > ps re
> > 'made whole once again.' Was something broken??puzzled P
> > Eagerly awaiting clarification
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of Judy Prince
> > Sent: 03 November 2008 08:44
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: "freedom of religion"
> >
> > Well, when you're unflattened, then, Christopher, here's something I'd
> > intended to copy into the last message to you, but wanted to know who
> wrote
> > it.  Have googled but come up with no mention of who wrote it.  It's said
> > to
> > be a translation of the Lord's Prayer.  Middle Eastern languages scholars
> > seem to be having a fit with it.  I've found it hugely, continuously
> > helpful
> > in calming and balancing me.  Will copy it in below, just as I originally
> > got it from a friend.  Then will type in my slightly altered version
> which
> > makes me happier.  I found the beginning of the original version quite
> > off-putting at first, but couldn't come up with a better-for-me version.
> >  It's nicely poetic, overall, I think.
> > #1:
> >
> > *Lords Prayer translated from Aramaic *
> > *A Translation of "Our Father" directly from the Aramaic into English *
> > *(rather than from Aramaic to Greek to Latin to old English to modern
> > English) *
> >
> > O cosmic Birther of all radiance and vibration. Soften the ground of our
> > being and carve out a space within us where your Presence can abide.
> >
> > Fill us with your creativity so that we may be empowered to bear the
> fruit
> > of your mission.
> > Let each of our actions bear fruit in accordance with our desire.
> >
> > Endow us with the wisdom to produce and share what each being needs to
> grow
> > and flourish.
> > Untie the tangled threads of destiny that bind us, as we release others
> > from
> > the entanglement of past mistakes.
> >
> > Do not let us be seduced by that which would divert us from our true
> > purpose, but illuminate the opportunities of the present moment.
> >
> > For you are the ground and the fruitful vision, the birth, power and
> > fulfillment, as all is gathered and made whole once again.
> >
> >
> >
> > #2:  Judy's version of above
> >
> > Oh Cosmic Birther and Bringer of all radiance and all vibration
> > soften the ground of our being
> > make a place within us
> > where your presence can abide
> >
> > Fill us with your creativity so that we may bring forth
> > joy, beauty, patience, and love
> >
> > Let each of our actions bring forth joy, beauty, patience, and love
> > in accordance with our desire
> >
> > Endow us with the wisdom to produce and share
> > what each being needs to grow and flourish
> >
> > Untie the tangled threads of destiny that bind us
> > as we release others from the entanglements of past mistakes
> >
> > Let us not be seduced by that which would distract us from our true
> purpose
> > but illuminate the opportunities of the present moment
> >
> > For you are the ground and the fruitful vision
> > the birth, power, and fulfillment
> > as all is gathered together and made whole once again.
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> > 2008/11/1 Christopher C Jones <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > Frederick and Judy, a great many thanks for comments that are very much
> > > of interest to me. However, I have been flattened by CFS, FM and RA at
> > > this time, so can't reply and ask other questions, as I would very much
> > > like to. But don't stop the discussion on my behalf, all the same.
> Best,
> > > Chris Jones.
> > >
> >
>