Hi,
this was discussed many times, and I am still getting 8 copies of every
site downtime notification (yes, e.g. Aachen site announcement on Friday
I got in 8 copies. I did not even know there is a site there). Frankly,
*none* of these outages are relevant to *my* VO, and in no manner did I
solicit these notifications. This is a massive spam problem and may need
a complex solution.
Some thoughts:
1. Do not send notifications by e-mail at all; post them instead via
e.g. RSS or other appropriate technology
2. Each VO admin or site admin or such should be able to chose which
sites and services they would like to be notified about (RSS above helps)
3. Subscribing lists to lists must be prohibited (difficult to control
though)
4. Do something (TM) to ensure that the sites do not need maintenance
breaks that often
5. If I would have been getting maintenance notifications of all the
DNS, SMTP, IMAP, HTTP etc servers in the World that are relevant to my
work, I would have gone crazy for sure. One-two a year about those in
*my* department are enough
Cheers,
Oxana
Dimitris Zilaskos пишет:
> Hi,
>
> I also suffer from the same problem. In a discussion with the cic
> people, one aspect of it is that too many nodes are registered in the
> GOCDB by site admins as core services for the whole grid (even when they
> are not). The other is the mandatory aspect of this notifications.
>
> So as VO manager/deputy for four VOs and two sites through different
> e-mails/mailing lists(which I cannot change), I recieve each
> notification so far 6 times. As manager of an institutional VO in Greece
> I recieve notifcation for nodes in China.
>
> I suggest that you open a GGUS ticket for that and let the list know so
> we can comment. I am sure that by now your orignal e-mail was filtered
> by most people, thats why I modify the subject. In fact I read it in
> order to see what new filter I need.
>
>
>
>
> O/H Debreczeni Gergely έγραψε:
>> Heh, I've tried to send the same mail 3 time just to make the point,
>> but Rollout list was enough clever to filter it out !!!! Woww, so
>> somewheree it
>> already works ! (In fact it observed that the message body is
>> identical to the previous one).
>> So then it should not be really that difficult..... :-))))))
>>
>>
>> Dear Colleagues !
>>
>> I'm registered as the site administrator of two site and as the VO
>> manager of the HunGrid VO.
>> As such, i receive every notification from [log in to unmask]
>> 3 times which
>> starts to be a bit (more than) annoying....
>>
>> Extract:
>>
>> @---------------------------------
>> Dear Gergely Debreczeni,
>>
>> You have been recognized as hungrid VO Manager.
>> Consequently, you are receiving this notification as this downtime
>> impacts one or many core services which have been specified in the GOC
>> as relevant for the organisational entity you represent.
>> Site : XYZ
>>
>> END OF XYZ SCHEDULED downtime
>>
>> blablablab...
>>
>> @---------------------------------
>>
>> a.)
>>
>> Since XYZ is not part of the HunGrid VO, - from the HunGrid point of
>> view -
>> I don't really care whether it is running or is down. I was not asking
>> for it.
>>
>> I know how the logic is working for this notifications, i.e a site XYZ
>> probably marked one/some of it's service as core i.e all sites need it,
>> (Anyway there should be no such service on the Grid - by design ?!)
>> and that's why everybody receives it.
>> But this logic should just be the other way around, so a VO admin or
>> a site admin should define in which information (s)he is interested....
>>
>> b.)
>> If I'm registered with several rule with the SAME e-mail address
>> then a notificattion should be sent only ONCE !
>> I'm the same person reading the same e-mail in my 3 different rule....
>>
>>
>> I dont really see what is so difficult realizing this , especially
>> because I've
>> asked more than 1.5 year ago for the first time....
>>
>>
>> Is there any plan to address this issue in the NEAR future ?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Gergely
>>
>> PS: And NO, my procmail rules and spam filters are not for solving
>> problems
>> generated somewhere else.
>>
>> PSII: There is ~250 sites ? ~ 5 downtime for each in a year -> 4
>> downtime / day
>> -> 8 notification (begin of downtime / end downtime) -> Rough
>> estimate:
>> 24 email /day !!!!!!, ehhhh &!^%@#
>> Exageratting a bit.... but you get the point, I hope.
>>
>
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