Kathleen
DCMI is a maintenance body for the simple DC that is also the ISO
standard. Like W3C, DCMI recommends specifications that very often
become legally binding standards in some countries. So, strictly, DCMI
is not a 'standards' body but it's recommendations are very often de
facto and even de jure standards.
Mostly, we use the full DC that is not an ISO standard but based on it
and far more versatile. The 'full' DC has refinements to the elements,
and application profiles, etc and using it, we can build, for example,
the DC-Education application profile for the education domain.
ISO JTC1 SC36 is a standards body that is working on a standard for
what I think is already well worked out. That is why I, for one, am
keen to ensure that we don't develop yet another metadata 'standard'
for the same domain.
In addition, many of us want to use Semantic Web technologies, and
want to be able to interoperate as much as possible with as many
others as possible.
So, I do think it is important to struggle with the difficult task of
reducing the number of different specifications being used, and to
support collaboration even more than we have managed so far. My aim
now is to help the MLR being developed by ISO JTC1 SC36 be fully
compatible not just with the standard of TC 46, but also what others
are doing to custom DC for education.
Liddy
On 07/11/2008, at 12:05 AM, Kathleen A Dolan wrote:
>
> Liddy,
>
> Thanks for this information. As an active participant in ISO TC 46
> activities, this does help me to understand your approach. However,
> DCMI is a maintenance activity under ISO TC 46 (and not a separate
> standards body) so I am still perplexed. I would think that, as a
> minimum, there would be harmonization.
>
> (Mary Lou, any comments?)
>
> K Dolan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Liddy Nevile" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "Kathleen A Dolan" <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 4:49:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: Metadata for Learning Resources
>
> Kathleen
>
> Dublin Core 'simple' is an ISO standard but the Dublin Core that most
> of us use is far richer and not an ISO standard. In addition, DCMI and
> ISO/IEC are different standards bodies, and it is not uncommon for
> different standards bodies to have different standards. This is what
> we are trying to prevent. There is already the LOM standard for
> educational resources, the emerging DC application profile for
> education, and so we don't want a third 'standard' - so many standards
> you can pick and choose which to use but then there is no
> interoperability which is the real goal of standards!
>
> In addition, at ISO we are keen to make sure that the standard is
> fully Semantic Web compatible - a fourth standard. SO it is a tricky
> job to line up everything and that is why it is a great opportunity
> for educational standards, we think, but only if we achieve our goal.
>
> So we want to produce an ISO standard that is fully interoperable with
> DC, Sem Web and LO. We believe we can do it! But we need help. The
> current version of the MLR is not conformant to any of these standards
> but a whole new one with nothing special to recommend it.
>
> Liddy
>
> On 04/11/2008, at 12:49 AM, Kathleen A Dolan wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am puzzled as to why this is a JTC1 SC36 proposed standard since
>> Dublin Core itself is a ISO TC46 standard.
>>
>> K Dolan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Liddy Nevile" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:56:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
>> Eastern
>> Subject: Metadata for Learning Resources
>>
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> I thought it might be of interest to many of you to know that
>> within a
>> section of the ISO work, we are trying to firm up on a model for
>> metadata for learning resources. It is called the Metadata for
>> Learning Resources standard and will come from ISO/IEC JTC1 SC36 WG4.
>> It is draft standard N19788. At this stage, we are working
>> particularly on Part 1 that will set out how the other parts are to
>> be
>> completed.
>>
>> ISO standards are developed by experts and voted upon by national
>> bodies that subscribe to ISO work. Many international standards
>> emerge
>> from this organisation, as you know, and they are adopted by many
>> governments. We are working with a mandate to develop a model for
>> learning resources that is DC compatible and as closely interoperable
>> with the LOM as possible. Many of you know what that means. It has
>> been the subject of extensive work by DCMI working groups for many
>> years.
>>
>> If your interests lie in this area, and you would like to
>> participate,
>> you can do so as an expert, or by making contacting with your
>> national
>> body and working through them. All national bodies are urged to vote
>> on standards but many do not have access to information that tells
>> them how to vote or why, so they have to vote in a fairly uninformed
>> way.
>>
>> Understanding how to develop metadata that is interoperable with both
>> DC and LOM metadata is within reach, and if achieved, should make it
>> easy for institutions that use DC metadata to contribute their
>> metadata to educational sources, and vice-versa. This seems like a
>> very worthy exercise, to many of us! Curiously, if the MLR adopts the
>> DC abstract model, it will be making that an ISO/IEC standard
>> metadata
>> model. This might be of interest to some people?
>>
>> Of course, this note to you is an invitation for discussion about the
>> topic on this list - so please, offer your thoughts, but perhaps do
>> that on the DC-education list? (To join the DC-education list, go
>> to http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa.exe?SUBED1=dc-education&A=1)
>>
>> Please do not hesitate to contact me if you do not know who else to
>> contact or want more info: (liddy at sunriseresearch.org)
>>
>> Liddy
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