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Re: Vles versus informal networking

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Miles Berry <[log in to unmask]>

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Virtual Learning Environments <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:09:23 +0100

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An interesting and thought provoking thread.

I agree with Leon about how much learning is now taking place outside  
the school/college/university - probably more than at any time over  
the last 150 years, thanks to technology and, particularly,  
technologically mediated social networks. That said, I think there's a  
little life yet in the educational institution, which is, for our  
learners, a big part of, probably the core of their learning network.  
This means that there's life yet in the VLE, as the place where the  
institution can provide content and shared activities, as well, I'd  
hope, as a place where the learners can share some of the wonderful  
things they create using the tools from outside the wire.

Roger's comparison with web2 in commercial contexts is an illuminating  
one: many firms are now embracing this, recognising that loose task  
based teams and independent projects (eg google) are more effective or  
creative than hierarchical management, but certainly not all:  
similarly in education, we'll see some at the cutting edge embracing  
these tools and the associated new ways of working, but others quite  
content with the way they've always done things, or its  
technologically enhanced replacement.

I've blogged a few thoughts of my own over at http://milesberry.net/?p=346

Miles.

On 13 Oct 2008, at 14:29, Leon Cych wrote:

> I have just put up a blog post about something related to this.
>
> http://www.l4l.co.uk/?p=109
>
> It does make sense but I do feel that education will only pull  
> itself out of the the victim/ training mentality when people are  
> given concrete exemplars of use and expected to be more autonomous  
> in ad hoc riskier situations - I really do think a victim mentality  
> rather than a can do one is perpertrated at the moment and that  
> needs to be broken out of. VLEs are one small part of how people  
> communicate informally - when you bind into an institution it  
> immediately seems clear that you appear to dumb down expectations in  
> some cases. I suppose what I'm saying is I'd like to to see some  
> more highly dynamic activity going on in terms of exemplars to teach  
> process rather than skills. The joining up of the tech and the  
> people is moving faster and faster and what is needed is to make the  
> process and the mindset transparent and the seeds for that are not  
> in old fashioned training I think. Some of it is but much of what I  
> am talking about is increasingly available ubiquitously outside of  
> the school networked wire and will leapfrog over existing  
> structures. So being prepared for that would be useful...
>
> Leon Cych
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Miles Berry
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