HI Julia
Think it is my project that Alison is referring to in the last e-mail,
I've attached some edited brief info about it that I gave out to a focus
group of clinical psychologists a few weeks back. Its not specifically on
community psychology, my research questions are -
„X What dilemmas and challenges have been encountered by clinical
psychologists working in the adult mental health system, when the medical
model is incompatible with their personal ideologies/ professional ethos?
„X How have these experiences personally affected them?
„X How have they made sense of the situation?
„X How have they continued to be committed to working in the mental health
system?
have a look at the info if you think it would be useful and let me know if
there is anything you want to talk about. I've done interviews and a focus
group and found this forum and the BPS very helpful for finding interested
interviewees.
Bill
> Hi Julie
>
> I remember there were some postings earlier this year about a piece of
> research in a similar vein. If you look through the archives of postings
> from April there might be parts of the discussion which are relevant to
> you as a place to start.
>
> hope it goes well and you enjoy the research!
> Alison
>
>
>
> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:50:40 +0000From:
> [log in to unmask]: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] researchTo:
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> dear all,kind of timely (for me) discussions about the practice of
> clinical psychology related to comm psych values, so i thought i'd ask for
> any thoughts about my potential/probable idea for research....i've just
> moved into the 2nd year of clinical psychology training, come from what
> some might call community 'psychology' background (would never have used
> the word psychology, as david suggested in his posting about voluntary
> sector work and practice) and want to do some research on how do/can
> clinical psychologists integrate comm psych values into their practice as
> the research element of this training.... not quite sure how to do this, i
> guess i could do 'interviews' but i think it lends itself more to action
> research or participatory approach with people working in the local area
> (plymouth), but any thoughts would be great ... as usual i've
> procrastinated far too long and need to take some action ;). it feels a
> little strange to do research about practice with and as a powerful group
> of people (clinpsychs), and i'm very new to plymouth so i don't know the
> area, but i really would like to know if and how people can integrate
> these values into their work... any thoughts would be great... really
> interested that you have taken time out of clinical psychology to do
> participatory research wendy. hope it's going well and you are surviving
> academia! cheers all julia
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:35:24 +0000From: [log in to unmask]:
> Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] adviceTo: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello all, and hello Vicky,
>
> Interesting debate indeed. I suspect the list has become a place for quite
> a few clinical psychologists (with an interest or experience in Community
> Psychology) to turn to when they need an antidote to the madness of
> working in the NHS. Or is that just me?
>
> I think that many of the clinical psychologists among us try to bring
> Community Psychology values and principles to our practice in the NHS, but
> may also find, as Dawn suggested, that there can be some deep
> contradictions between these different branches of psychology and ways of
> engaging with people. For me, these have been pretty difficult to
> reconcile at times. It's relevant that I am currently taking a break from
> work in NHS clinical psychology to do a PhD using a participatory action
> research approach, and coming from an explicitly feminist and critical
> standpoint. (not that I have illusions about universities as egalitarian,
> anti-oppressive institutions, either!)
>
> One of the things that hasn't been mentioned to you Vicky, relates to the
> presentation that I jumped into at the last minute with David Fryer at the
> Edinburgh conference just a few weeks ago. My take on the workshop was
> that we were seeking to find ways of conceptualising and discussing a form
> of malaise that appears to affect people who are trying to work in
> anti-oppressive ways within oppressive systems. We have had some
> interesting discussions about trying to find ways that don't fall back on
> individualising clinical constructs like stress, burnout and depression.
>
> As someone who has trained as a clinical psychologist, and worked in adult
> mental health for just 5 years, I believe that mental health services
> within the NHS would benefit from having more critical and community
> psychology minded people like you on the inside, trying to steer our
> services away from some of the appalling practices that still go on under
> our noses. However, from the same experiences, I know how difficult this
> can be, even when working in a part of the service with supportive, kind,
> and like-minded colleagues and managers. I think it takes a certain amount
> of something-I'm-not-sure-I've-got to survive in the system and hang onto
> your critical and/or community psychology values at the same time. As
> Annie suggested, I think the training and experience of working can
> 'divert and professionalise', even when we have good intentions from the
> outset.
>
> I know that clinical psychology can seem like a very appealing career,
> with paid training, relatively high status (compared with other workers in
> the NHS), and once you get a job, fairly good job security and
> remuneration. BUT, even relatively comfortable jobs like mine seem hard to
> come by, and some of the good people I know find themselves only able to
> get jobs that require them to deliver (and supervise the delivery of) CBT
> to the masses under the Layard agenda. I would personally recommend
> talking to as many working clinical psychologists as you can about the
> reality of their jobs, and ask yourself whether it's what you really want.
>
> Wishing you all the best with your career plans, whichever direction you
> take.
>
> Wendy
>
> --- On Wed, 8/10/08, Mark Rapley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From: Mark Rapley <[log in to unmask]>Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK]
> adviceTo: [log in to unmask]: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008,
> 5:24 PMHi Vicky
> You'd be right at home here at UEL too ;)
> Cheers
> Mark
>
> 2008/10/7 Vicky Honeyman <[log in to unmask]>:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> My name is Vicky and I'm currently finishing an MSc in Community
> Psychology
>> at Manchester Metropolitan University. I've got an undergraduate
> psychology
>> degree and have volunteered with Penumbra's Edinburgh Self Harm
> Project for
>> two summers and with a small organisation called VentureArts for people
> with
>> learning difficulties for the past year. I'm currently working as a
> support
>> worker with people with mental health issues, learning difficulties and
> dual
>> diagnosis. My research interests have been within qualitative research
>> and
> I
>> have an interest in critical psychology. I've been applying for
> assistant
>> psychologist jobs for the past few months and have had a few interviews
> but
>> haven't yet been successful in obtaining a post. I'm interested in
> pursuing a
>> career in clinical psychology and was wondering if anyone could give me
> some
>> advice about either assistant posts and what is expected within the
>> interviews, what further experience would be beneficial for me to aim
>> for
> and
>> whether it is worthwhile apply for the clinical psychology doctorates
>> even
>> although I've not worked as an assistant psychologist yet. I know that
> the
>> criteria for the doctorates usually says they will consider applicants
> without
>> having been an assistant but I was really wondering given the
>> competition
> for
>> these posts and courses is this realistic? Thanks in advance for anyone
> who
>> replies.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Vicky
>>
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