When I trained in clinical psychol it was a matter of 'head down, get
the ticket, and try to not get too sucked into the professiional
socialisation'.
But it was only 2 years in those days!
John McGowan wrote:
> And I for one hope you will be coaxed back down to Kent sometime David.
>
> I think your point about finding " way for you to sort out doctoral
> training courses worth going to from those which are not" is hugely
> important. The pressure around getting into clinical psychology courses
> often seems to me to obscure consideration of the values and direction
> of the particular course and if it actually feels appropriate for
> particular applicants. To be honest sometimes it seems to obscure the
> issue of whether this sort of training is appropriate at all seems to
> get lost too.
>
>
> Dr John McGowan
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fryer
> Sent: 09 October 2008 13:07
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] advice
>
> Dear Vicky,
>
> You mention volunteering in relation to self harm but it might be worth
> remembering that there are many non-statutory i.e. voluntary sector
> organisations which provide paid jobs which allow one to try to make a
> difference in relation to psy-complex related misery and injustice.
> These often offer more scope for engaging in 'community psychology' than
> clinical assistantships. Of course much, I would say most, good work is
> done by people without 'community' or 'psychologist' in their job title.
> In Scotland, the Big Issue in Scotland is a good source of such job
> adverts.
>
> Different clinical doctorate selectors for different courses will
> presumably have different views as to whether spending time working in a
> family violence or anti-racist project etc. is as valuable experience
> for would-be clinical trainees as being a psychology assistant but that
> could be a good way for you to sort out doctoral training courses worth
> going to from those which are not?
>
> However for someone with community and critical interests, the voluntary
> sector may be worth considering as an alternative to clinical psychology
> regarding longer term paid employment? There are many responsible,
> secure, well-paid jobs in the voluntary sector as well as many temporary
> insecure poorly paid ones. Not all voluntary sector jobs are, of course,
> unproblematic from a critical or community psychology standpoint but in
> my view many are less problematic than much clinical psychology work.
>
> As far as clinical psychology doctoral training courses are concerned,
> others in this list know more than I do about nuances of difference
> between such courses but I would just say that I know personally the
> Lancaster training course has a commitment to including community and
> critical psychology amongst the issues with which trainees are
> encouraged to grapple. For several years now, colleagues on the
> Lancaster course have welcomed me, my colleague Adele Laing and activist
> allies in running whole day workshops promoting critical thinking about
> community and clinical ways of working. Salomons (Kent) too have
> welcomed us previously and I know that Craig Newnes and Dave Harper also
> contribute to that course.
>
> Good luck
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vicky Honeyman
> Sent: 07 October 2008 20:26
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] advice
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My name is Vicky and I'm currently finishing an MSc in Community
> Psychology at Manchester Metropolitan University. I've got an
> undergraduate psychology degree and have volunteered with Penumbra's
> Edinburgh Self Harm Project for two summers and with a small
> organisation called VentureArts for people with learning difficulties
> for the past year. I'm currently working as a support worker with people
> with mental health issues, learning difficulties and dual diagnosis. My
> research interests have been within qualitative research and I have an
> interest in critical psychology. I've been applying for assistant
> psychologist jobs for the past few months and have had a few interviews
> but haven't yet been successful in obtaining a post. I'm interested in
> pursuing a career in clinical psychology and was wondering if anyone
> could give me some advice about either assistant posts and what is
> expected within the interviews, what further experience would be
> beneficial for me to aim for and whether it is worthwhile apply for the
> clinical psychology doctorates even although I've not worked as an
> assistant psychologist yet. I know that the criteria for the doctorates
> usually says they will consider applicants without having been an
> assistant but I was really wondering given the competition for these
> posts and courses is this realistic? Thanks in advance for anyone who
> replies.
>
> Kind regards,
> Vicky
>
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