Dear Sarah, John and other CRUMB list members:
My apologies for posting the press release on Jonathon Keats' ATHEON
project. As it was not an act of self-promotion -- I have nothing to do with this
project although I do know Jonathon's work -- I thought it would be OK to
circulate it to the list. To me, the piece is clearly conceived as a spoof of
practices by new media artists and curators as well as other cultural issues.
Keats is something of a conceptual mischief maker.
I hoped members would find it provocative and even funny.
I'm sorry if it offended readers and violated the CRUMB rules.
Thanks for the clarification, Sarah.
best regards,
Marcia
ps: I don't want to be kicked off the list so I won't repeat this mistake!
In a message dated 9/9/2008 8:45:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) writes:
>
> On 8 Sep 2008, at 23:19, John Hopkins wrote:
>>> For Immediate Release
>> Does anyone else on this list have any aversion to Press/PR
>> releases being sent to this list?
Hi John and other CRUMB List members,
Apologies for the Press content circulated via the list. CRUMB has a
'three strikes and you're out' rule -- that is, if a list member
posts more than three spam-self-promotion items *without* introducing
a relevant reason for why they are posting the material to the list,
then we unsubscribe them. We always email them off-list first.
It may be worth re-iterating, for all our newer members, a bit of the
past discussion on this topic, and some guidelines for CRUMB works:
Contents:
1. About the list
2. About the "Themes of the Month"
3. About promotion on list
4. Technical Notes
1. ABOUT THE LIST
This list is intended for those involved in curating, exhibiting,
archiving or interpreting new media art (including net.art,
interactive installations, digital video etc.) It's for discussion of
issues specifically related to new media art curating, because
although there is much material concerning new media art, new media
theory, and new media as 'education' in museums, there is little to
help curators deal with the challenges of new media art.
It is the discussion list of the CRUMB web site (Curatorial Resource
for Upstart Media Bliss http://www.crumbweb.org). The site includes:
CRUMB INTERVIEWS, SEMINARS and LINKS. Visit often ... leave crumbs of
knowledge.
The List rules are simple:
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art, unless they particularly concern curating, or curating
opportunities. If you want criticallly discuss the curating aspects
of a new media event, then please DO. Other lists which do take
listings are mentioned on the CRUMB web site.
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2. ABOUT THE "THEMES OF THE MONTH"
To get debates going, every other month will feature a particular
theme of debate, with specially invited contributors. ANY member is
welcome to contribute on any topic at any time, but the themes may
help focus debate.
3. MORE ABOUT PROMOTION ON LIST:
This list is for the discussion of issues relating to curating new
media art. Please do not post general publicity about shows, even if
they are about new media art.
There are lots of other great and open/unmoderated online lists which
allow (or are created for!) announcements and 'general posts about
current shows' - such as Spectre (here in Europe) or Rhizome (more in
North America) but there are still remarkably few lists that support
the development of the practice of curating and discussion around the
issues of curating - media art or art formerly known as new media, or
art after new media or whatever/other.
CRUMB tries to stay on the side of the latter, rather than compete in
the same terrain as the former. so in our minds, an announcement
about a show opening is not necessarily as valid as a review of it,
especially if the review mentions some 'issue' to do with the
curating / production / presentation of the work -- which is why self-
reviewing is so welcome here. In the past we've let curators post
notices about their own shows, so long as they editorialise and
include a comment about why it is relevant to this forum - i.e. what
they want to discuss in relation to it (and I don't mean 'hey, tell
me if you like my show'). I myself have often posted notices about
conferences/events pertaining to new media to prompt anyone on the
list who might be going to report back about it, especially if it is
particularly relevant to one of our monthly theme-d discussions.
These critical reports we all crave might go some way to us all
discovering what new media actually is. Although I'm never entirely
sure that that is a goal of this list anyway. Discovering what
curating entails and how new media illuminates/challenges/messes
about with that is though.
As a subscriber once said, "the quality and relevance of CRUMB is in
the discussions about curatorial and related issues."
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