A good reality check Paul
Some responses to bear in mind -
It is possible for people to publish different aspects of their work in more
than one place.
It will also provide for a multi-disciplinary forum - at the moment health
researchers publish cycling articles in health forums, transport in
transport forums etc.
I also think that until cycling has a solid international group of
researchers our work will always get lost in the mainstream journals. A
journal (even if it's only 2 issues a year) may provide an incentive for
those who do cycling research (high quality masters and honours students,
project workers) to get it published - and to make sure it is rigorous
enough so they can get it published. It it also likely to encourage
researchers into this area or to reframe their work to take cycling into
account - I'm thinking here of people such as Neville Owen who is doing work
on walkability and has recently rerun some of his analysis to take account
of cycling
cheers
jennifer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Rosen
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 3:47 am
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: e-journal?
Hi all,
Sorry to be the negative (sorry, realistic!) one here, but while I fully
support the CSRG being proactive about getting cycling research published,
in a collaborative and cooperative way, the idea of a journal worries me for
a couple of reasons.
1) whilst it could be useful for raising the profile of cycling research,
it could also reinforce our marginality.
2) more importantly, I'm not convinced we could generate more than a couple
of issues of material using credible peer review, before grinding to a
creative halt. A dedicated journal would need everybody doing any cycling
research across the world to submit a paper at least once every year or two
in order to fill each issue, to the exclusion of any other publishing
options they might prefer to take. Given that proper peer review will knock
out a percentage of papers submitted as not of high enough quality, I
seriously doubt the ability to sustain enough submissions to publish a
regular journal. I don't know how things went in planning this year for the
UWE meeting, but the symposium last year included every paper submitted,
allowing us to just fill all the slots available. But for good peer review
you need more being submitted than you have space for (even if some get
polished up for resubmission later). On that basis, we'd have to accept
everything without peer review, or risk having nothing to include. I think
it's also rather telling that the enthusiastic responses so far show there
could be more people on the editorial board than there are submitting
papers.
On a more positive note, there are alternative options.
1) Publish the symposium proceedings annually, whether electronic or
physical, perhaps parallel to the cycle history conference proceedings as
Nicholas has encouraged previously. Not peer reviewed, but could that be
built into it? I don't see why not, as we did with the first C&S book
(editor-reviewed, anyway).
I think an annual publication has more chance of being credible than more
frequent journal issues.
2) Publish a second Cycling and Society book, assuming that sales of the
first one are doing well enough (I'm only one of the editors, so don't
actually know
;) )
3) A collective strategy for getting cycling research papers published in
other journals - we could, for example, identify potential journals and
share info with each other eg help each other identify a journal to submit
to, and offer to read each other's drafts prior to submission, moving the
group slightly closer towards an actual research group that does things
between symposia.
(reading/discussion group, anybody?)
4) Publish a series of online papers rather than a journal. We could have
an editorial board setting out a strategy for how this should be developed -
e.g.
decide which topics ought to be covered and issue calls or invite people to
fill relevant gaps, and identify how frequently to add new papers. Could
this also be peer reviewed? How would it play re. RAE? Or use it to share
work in progress . . . ??
If any of these options gets taken forward, we'd need to build up a bank of
peer reviewers from outside the cycling research world. And I'd be more
than happy for Chester to host anything that emerges unless there's a good
reason not to.
So, Peter, thanks for making this suggestion. Whilst I don't agree with
it, it's been really useful for stimulating enthusiasm and will hopefully
lead us to a positive outcome.
Best,
Paul
on 15/9/08 6:36 PM, Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list
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> I agree too.
> Happy to contribute
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> Sounds interesting.
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> I would be interested in being part of the editorial team too, if you
> are looking for additional sociologists.
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> Sent: 15 September 2008 16:19
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> Peter
>
> I support this motion and happy to put my name forward to be on
> editorial team. RICS - not to be confused with the Royal Institute of
> Chartered Surveyors!
>
> Tim Jones
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>> Hello all,
>>
>> Full of inspiration after the UWE gathering, I've been having a word
>> with our university research office and the possibility is present to
>> establish a formal, peer-reviewed, online journal e.g. "Research in
>> Cycling and Society".
>>
>> The first question is whether there would be sufficient support for
>> me to go ahead with this .
>>
>> It would be hosted by University of Chester but have a web portal of
>> its own.
>> The possibility exists there for any other institution or department
>> to be listed as a supporter if willing to provide a nominal sum to
>> help establish the nec. seed capital and finance for copy editing.
>>
>> Volunteers would also be needed to be part of the editorial team.
>> I'd be happy to co-ordinate.
>>
>> This would provide us with an initial voice and outlet for our
>> various bits of research that we are engaged with and an ongoing
>> means of publication for those necessary bits of work that don't seem
>> to always find a home in other journals, and for the publication of
>> developed conference papers.
>>
>> What do people think?
>>
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