Why not then, look for a model that adequately reflect personal
experience -answers your questions? Remember the social model was set up
the respond the an inadequacy - lacking in the 1970's. Why not come up
with a model that does. Just like no Dr can meet all of one's needs no one
model can adequately reflect all personal experience.
Instead of blaming the social model , why not challenge it by creating
something else or look for a model that respond to your personal experience
?
Maria
----- Original Message -----
From: "Margo Milne" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Neurodiversity, neurological disability and the public sector:
notes on the autism spectrum
> Indeed, as originally formulated. But models can, and do, evolve to
> provide
> a better representation of reality. At present, many disabled people,
> particularly older disabled people, do not self-identify as disabled using
> the social model. Why is that? For me, as for others, it is partly because
> the social model does not adequately reflect personal experience, and the
> experience of impairment.
>
> Margo
>
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> From: Maria [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 10 August 2008 13:20
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> Subject: Re: Neurodiversity, neurological disability and the public
> sector:
> notes on the autism spectrum
>
> Margo
> The social model was never intend to explain pain and medical construct.
> However, if you are looking for models that deal with those issues may I
> suggest a literature search in medical sociology ?
> Maria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Margo Milne" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Neurodiversity, neurological disability and the public
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> notes on the autism spectrum
>
>
>> Well, when you come up with a philosophical construct that deals
>> adequately
>> with the "common sense notions" of pain and fatigue that many of us have
>> to
>> deal with every day, let me know. Until then, I'll continue to argue that
>> the social model, as it currently stands, is inadequate for describing
>> the
>> experience of many disabled people, and that the personal effects of
>> impairments must be considered as part of the causes of disability.
>>
>> Margo
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry Arnold
>> Sent: 09 August 2008 19:57
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Neurodiversity, neurological disability and the public
>> sector:
>> notes on the autism spectrum
>>
>> In the end I suppose it comes down to personal attribution style as much
>> as
>> anything, but I would
>> prefer that impairment were struck from the language as a somewhat
>> untranslatable concept and
>> replaced with something like sub optimal adaptation, or negatively
>> nuanced
>> difference.
>>
>> It gets ridiculous to me really to put comparitors in, because there are
>> things that I can't do and
>> will never do, simply because it is not in the parameters of my embodied
>> existence to have that
>> capacity, however it only becomes a problem by comparison, and if you did
>> not have the faculty of
>> mind that allows comparison, then you would not be able to express your
>> disability or impairment in
>> the terms you do.
>>
>> My particular neurological set up seems to be optimised for philosophical
>> speculation and the
>> rejection of straigtforward "common sense" folk pyschology of things, I
>> am
>> rather glad it is because
>> it allows of this kind of mental gymnastics to counter such common sence
>> notions as pain and
>> limitation, not that I am totally an android (heavens above I feela lot
>> more human than I suppose
>> Stephen Pinker and Richard Dawkins to be) and don't feel human
>> limitations
>> from time to time and get
>> a little down about it. Now where did I put those trees?
>>
>> Well life would certainly be no fun if I did not think the way I do.
>>
>> Larry
>>
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