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----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Prince" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: b/c moderation in all things
> Roger Bear,
> How could I do otherwise than you have done, you magnificent man.
>
> Anny and Joe, I hereby resign from this list.
>
> Andrew and Candice, I withdraw my submissions from the petc collection.
>
> Best wishes to you all,
>
> Judy
>
> 2008/7/15 Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Nice to see what "airs and graces" go on b/c. I hereby resign from
>> Poetryetc.
>> Sorry folks, but I can't abide snobbishness in any form.
>> Andrew and Candice, you will have to find another publisher for the
>> anthology, and I withdraw my submissions.
>>
>> Roger Collett
>> Arrowhead Press
>> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
>> Jules de Gaultier
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick Pollack" <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: b/c moderation in all things
>>
>>
>> 2008/7/15 Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>>
>>>> Wot, Judy, dropped the argot for your attempted impeachment? I'm not
>>>>
>>>>> going to respond to your bill of particulars except to say that, while
>>>>> I
>>>>> might have handled some situations differently, I did the best I could
>>>>> under
>>>>> the circumstances; further, whatever actions I have taken have been,
>>>>> by
>>>>> my
>>>>> lights, for the good of the list. If I were the arbitrary autocrat you
>>>>> make
>>>>> me out to be, I would have removed you from the list long ago – your
>>>>> embarrassing diction and endlessly irrelevant posts would get you
>>>>> booted
>>>>> from any online forum with which I am familiar. Anny & I have been
>>>>> quite
>>>>> forbearing, as your chatter has cluttered up many discussions as well
>>>>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> list itself, driving many people to silence and in some cases right
>>>>> off
>>>>> the
>>>>> list. I intend to continue as co-moderator and will not hesitate to
>>>>> limit
>>>>> the sort of irrelevant chatter in which you specialize.
>>>>> jd
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joseph Duemer
>>>>> Professor of Humanities
>>>>> Clarkson University
>>>>> Weblog: sharpsand.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> I must say, Joe, it's good to see some home truths. What I find
>> intolerable is her massive ignorance, combined with a will to go on
>> talking
>> at all costs, which she probably sees as heroic self-affirmation. After
>> the
>> following post of hers, on the 11th -----
>>
>> "A good list of poets whose work you admire, Fred.
>> Most of their poems feature---and from a personal perspective---the sad
>> guy-hero, an "outsider", not a warrior, aware that the politics and
>> institutions of (his corner of) the world operate against him and (most)
>> others, but he can neither fight back nor succeed, if he has launched his
>> fight. He is doomed. And so are we.
>> It is a powerful topic for prose and poetry. It features males who are
>> depressive and/or anxious. They feel impotent. Some of them escape into
>> brief Romance poetics. All is not good in their worlds. There is no
>> hope.
>> There is only the constant feel of futility.
>>
>> Their poetry uses all the traditional ('Mainstream') techniques, but is
>> for
>> the most part a distilled prose, as if it would eschew the 'poetic'.
>>
>> I wonder that these poets and their followers don't simply get bored with
>> continuous contemplation of life's tragedy after while. Would a giggle
>> overtake them from time to time? Probably. But they would get over it,
>> and
>> go on with Tragedy As Usual."
>>
>> --- I decided that deleting any post with her name would be the best
>> solution. Don't be bullied into withdrawing. - FP
>>
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