Ah, well, Canada, & at a University where the Eng Dept accepted
creative work as valuable. And I retired (was retired) back in 2005.
And I taught Creative Writing as well as contemporary Canadian, &
British & US, poetry courses, among other things. So my poetry
publications counted in the yearly administrative assemblage of Things
Done.
And they are 'peer-reviewed', really, when you figure that it other
poets who usually edit these mags, online or off. Not everyone if the
department agreed, but luckily we had had, historically, some chairs
who actually thought that practice in the field meant you had a
certain kind of understanding of poetry, to teach it as a subject (not
CW, but the historical coursers, etc).
So maybe I was lucky in my choice of university (University of
Alberta), because I remember how envious of me some poets at other
universities used to be, where they, too, had to hide their
predilection for such unsavory activities....
Doug
On 30-Jun-08, at 11:13 AM, Robin Hamilton wrote:
>> Interesting. Toward the end of my teaching career, my university
>> accepted my web publications as equal to my 'real'. page-based, ones.
>
> How old are you, Doug, or in which country?
>
> For me, even hard-copy counted against me.
>
> "Do you find that writing poetry *interferes with your
> teaching, Dr. Hamilton?"
>
> Having been turned down for at least four jobs because I wrote
> poetry, it was hysterically funny to find myself stopped at the
> Efficiency Bar.
>
> {Not that the Suits could actujllly *do anything to me, as I'd
> already topped the salary limit.)
>
> If you write poetry in the UK, you don't just button your mouth but
> you sew your lips shut.
>
> Or it was once.
>
> {One of the killers in the UK was "peer reviewed publications".
> That meant poets and dramturges made common cause.
>
> Fuck all good it did, and it all went down te tank when the UK
> Academic Academic Review Exercise decided to exclude reviews.
>
> Do you *know how long it takes to write a decemt review if there are
> maybe three people in the ever-loving world who'd bother to read
> what you say? Same time it takes takes to write a (peer reviewed)
> article.
>
> Natch, the Lost Boys (good on then) promptly stopped writing revew
> articles ...
>
> End result is if you read an academic review today, you get what you
> you pay for -- if you pay monkeys, you get peanuts.
>
> Way it goes ...
>
> :-(
>
> R.
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