Roger Bear,
How could I do otherwise than you have done, you magnificent man.
Anny and Joe, I hereby resign from this list.
Andrew and Candice, I withdraw my submissions from the petc collection.
Best wishes to you all,
Judy
2008/7/15 Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]>:
> Nice to see what "airs and graces" go on b/c. I hereby resign from
> Poetryetc.
> Sorry folks, but I can't abide snobbishness in any form.
> Andrew and Candice, you will have to find another publisher for the
> anthology, and I withdraw my submissions.
>
> Roger Collett
> Arrowhead Press
> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>
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> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
> Jules de Gaultier
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick Pollack" <
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> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: b/c moderation in all things
>
>
> 2008/7/15 Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>> Wot, Judy, dropped the argot for your attempted impeachment? I'm not
>>>
>>>> going to respond to your bill of particulars except to say that, while I
>>>> might have handled some situations differently, I did the best I could
>>>> under
>>>> the circumstances; further, whatever actions I have taken have been, by
>>>> my
>>>> lights, for the good of the list. If I were the arbitrary autocrat you
>>>> make
>>>> me out to be, I would have removed you from the list long ago – your
>>>> embarrassing diction and endlessly irrelevant posts would get you booted
>>>> from any online forum with which I am familiar. Anny & I have been quite
>>>> forbearing, as your chatter has cluttered up many discussions as well as
>>>> the
>>>> list itself, driving many people to silence and in some cases right off
>>>> the
>>>> list. I intend to continue as co-moderator and will not hesitate to
>>>> limit
>>>> the sort of irrelevant chatter in which you specialize.
>>>> jd
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joseph Duemer
>>>> Professor of Humanities
>>>> Clarkson University
>>>> Weblog: sharpsand.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> I must say, Joe, it's good to see some home truths. What I find
> intolerable is her massive ignorance, combined with a will to go on talking
> at all costs, which she probably sees as heroic self-affirmation. After
> the
> following post of hers, on the 11th -----
>
> "A good list of poets whose work you admire, Fred.
> Most of their poems feature---and from a personal perspective---the sad
> guy-hero, an "outsider", not a warrior, aware that the politics and
> institutions of (his corner of) the world operate against him and (most)
> others, but he can neither fight back nor succeed, if he has launched his
> fight. He is doomed. And so are we.
> It is a powerful topic for prose and poetry. It features males who are
> depressive and/or anxious. They feel impotent. Some of them escape into
> brief Romance poetics. All is not good in their worlds. There is no hope.
> There is only the constant feel of futility.
>
> Their poetry uses all the traditional ('Mainstream') techniques, but is for
> the most part a distilled prose, as if it would eschew the 'poetic'.
>
> I wonder that these poets and their followers don't simply get bored with
> continuous contemplation of life's tragedy after while. Would a giggle
> overtake them from time to time? Probably. But they would get over it,
> and
> go on with Tragedy As Usual."
>
> --- I decided that deleting any post with her name would be the best
> solution. Don't be bullied into withdrawing. - FP
>
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