Cordelia Warr gave an interesting paper on Dominican promotion of stigmatist saints, at the "Saints between Manuscript and Print" conference at the American Academy in Rome in June.
As I recall, she mentioned that "stigmata" was often used to describe a variety of physical experiences, not just the receiving of the wounds of Christ in the manner of Francis.
Tom Luongo
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Also Franciscans resented any claim Catherine of Siena received stigmata. Carolyn Muessig gave a very interesting paper on this at the meeting of the Renaissance Society of America this past spring.
Tom Izbicki
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> There could be bad blood between the two orders. Vauchez also wrote about Dominican resentment of Franciscan claims of Francis' stigamata. They thought this was making him too much like Christ, and some images of Francis bearing the stigmata were defaced. See André Vauchez, "Les stigmates de saint François et leurs détracteurs dans les derniers siècles du moyen âge," Mélanges d'archaeologie et d'histoire, 1968, 596-625. Translated by Edward Hagman as "The Stigmata of St. Francis and Its Medieval Detractors," Greyfriars Review 13 (1999).
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> Dear Cecilia
> André Vauchez wrote an essay on Jacopo da Voragine and whether Saints Dominic, Peter Martyr, Francis and Elizabeth of Hungary belonged to the original corpus of the Legenda Aurea or not, and therein also wrote a little about Jacopo's sermons on Francis. The essay is 'Jacopo da Voragine e i santi del XIII secolo' in Ordini mendicanti e società italiana XIII-XV secolo (Milan: Mondadori, 1990), pp.92-115. The essay was originally published in Jacopo da Voragine. Atti del I Convegno di studi indetto dal Centro studi Jacopo da Voragine (Varazze, 13-14 aprile 1985), ed. G. Farris and T.B. Delfino (Varazze, 1987), pp.53-77.
> On p.113, n., of the Mondadori edition, Vauchez cites Jacopo's sermons on St. Francis, as sermones I and II, in R. Clutius, Jacobi de Voragine sermones aurei, vol.II, Mayence 1616.
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> Cecilia,
> One possible place to look is in the sermon literature. Did
> Dominicans preserve sermons about Francis etc.? And vice versa.
> Francis himself was such an international saint, I cannot imagine him
> being skipped entirely by Dominicans. Others might be given less
> attention. You might
> consult:
>
> Title: Repertorium der lateinischen Sermones des Mittelalters für die
> Zeit von 1350 bis 1500 [electronic resource] / nach den Vorarbeiten
> von J.B. Schneyer ; herausgegeben von L. Hödl und W. Knoch.
> Publication info: Münster : Aschendorff, c2001.
> Physical descrip: 1 CD-ROM ; 4 3/4 in. + 1 guide ([12] p. ; 12 cm.)
>
>
> *Repertorium der lateinischen Sermones des Mittelalters für die Zeit
> von 1150-1350 /*
>
> Johannes Baptist *Schneyer*
>
> 1969-1990
> *Latin* Book Book 11 v. ; 24 cm.
> Münster Westfalen : Aschendorffsche Verlagsbuchhandlung,
>
> Also, the following:
>
>
> *Quaestiones evangeliorum tam de tempore quam de sanctis*
>
> Juan de *Torquemada*
>
> 1477
> *Latin* Book Book : Microform Microform 414 p. fol.
> Rome, Johann Schurener,
>
> Did Torquemada provide for material on Franciscans? I never looked.
>
> I do know that Leonardo Dati OP preached on Francis at the Council of
> Constance. I never have been sure how he got that assignment. That
> is covered with other sermons by author in:
>
> i
> *Scriptores Ordinis Praedicatorum Medii Aevi /*
>
> Thomas *Kaeppeli*; Emilio *Panella*
>
> 1970-1993
> *Latin* Book Book 4 v. ; 25 cm.
> Romae : Ad S. Sabinae,
>
> Tom Izbick
>
>
>
> cecilia gaposchkin wrote:
>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture Doctissimi,
>>
>> Can any one point me to relevant bibliography on the question of how
>> Franciscans and Dominicans treated each other's saints in their
>> sanctorales and calendars, and saintly commemorations in general. I
>> presume this is something that someone has thought about somewhere,
>> but I don't know where to look. So, for instance, did Franciscan do
>> more than simply insert Aquinas into their calendar - did they use
>> proper liturgical offices, did they preach proper sermons, and so
>> forth. And did the Dominicans celebrate, for instance, Louis of
>> Toulouse, or Anthony of Padua, and how?
>>
>> Any info and/or bibliography appreciated.
>>
>> thanks as always, for every one's engagements. I love and benefit
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>> cecilia
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