Dear all,

Having just returned from the XVIIIth World Congress on Safety and Health at Work in Seoul, I was heartened by the number of OSH practitioners there who saw themselves as a public health professional.  It has been a major struggle over the years in getting the many disciplines involved in Occupational Health to recognise the role that each of us has and the benefits to be accrued from partnerships, alliances, and general multidisciplinary working.  I know that Bashyr has been a great advocate of the community nature of Occupational Health for a long time; with a growing awareness of the global trend of work casualisation, such a stance becomes vital.  

As well as driving away other disciplines, I suspect that unscrupulous use of the list is one of the reasons for our seeing fewer international contributions to the list.  The international contribution is an important part of our sharing, especially in helping to gain a global perspective.

As a view, I am disappointed when I see an abuse of the list. We will not get rid of such people: they are impervious to notions of self-discipline or respect for others.    Once again, however and for what it is worth, I would like to remind such people that the list is supported and run by JISCMAIL who are a part of the UK's higher education funding system; it is intended for all academics and practitioners concerned with advancing their practice and understanding of the health of people who work.  

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] on behalf of Therona Goldsmith
Sent: Tue 01/07/2008 15:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] multi-disciplinary list
 
Or - like me - open a new e mail account specifically for the list. That way
you can look at what you want, whereever and whenever you want to.

Therona

On 7/1/08, L KENYON <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>  Hear hear - let's keep the list with all its strengths and occasional
> weaknesses as it is!  Your email browser should enable you to filter any
> postings with "job" in it and move it automatically to another folder, then
> you can look at jobs when you feel like it!
>
> Lucy Kenyon
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lindsey Hall <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008 10:26:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] multi-disciplinary list
>
> Dear all
>
> I am another who likes this list in all its - occasionally dubious - glory.
> Jobs, moans or whatever. It's great to get the facts and the feelings about
> what is going on.  A couple of years ago, I joined the sister list for HR
> advisers, [log in to unmask]  I think that is the right email address but
> it was so dull and rarely used that I can't remember.  I was hoping to
> contribute to a whole range of debates, give the OH viewpoint, provide a
> bit
> of advice and maybe get some business.  All I received was the odd email
> about some esoteric academic conference that seemed so far removed from
> reality, I gave up.
>
> I accept that the list is not all nurses and we should welcome that and
> perhaps be a bit more specific in what we say.  However, given the choice
> between the odd high brow posting and the wide range we receive here, for
> which a quick press of the delete key is an occasional option, I know which
> I would rather have.
>
> Lindsey
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf
> Of Haffner-Loach Neil G - Senior OH Nurse Practitioner / Ops Manager
> Sent: 01 July 2008 09:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] multi-disciplinary list
>
> With respect Sian and Bob,
>
> Have you ever tried to use OHjobs@drsmaze?
>
> It is awful.
>
> I actually welcome all posts. It then allows the user to keep an eye on
> whats going on and where!
>
> Neil
>
> Long live the jobs!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf
> Of Robert Dunn
> Sent: 01 July 2008 09:01
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] multi-disciplinary list
>
> I did discuss my concerns on this problem with Bashyr offline a few weeks
> ago, and as a nurse I totally agree with you Sian.
>
> Sadly, it appears that the list has lately become a cost free advertising
> vehicle for employment/recruitment agencies looking for OH nurses and
> physicians, although there is a separate area of the list for this type of
> communication (OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH JOBS http://OHJobs.drmaze.net<http://ohjobs.drmaze.net/>).
>
>
> At the risk of making myself very unpopular, I would suggest that one way
> of
> stopping this abuse of the list would be for those of us who don't wish to
> be bombarded with these job advertisement emails is to reply to the sender
> with a blank and empty email, thereby flooding their inbox with useless
> responses.....they may then get the message!!!!
>
> Regards, Bob
>
>
> Robert Dunn TD
> RGN OHNC SCPHN(OH) MSc
> Senior Occupational Health Adviser
> University of Oxford Occupational Health Service
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf
> Of Sian Edwards
> Sent: 01 July 2008 08:45
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] multi-disciplinary list
>
> Dear All,
> I find this list really useful. It provides support for people working
> alone, answers to tricky questions, reassurance that instincts are right,
> pointers to new information, humour, and the odd job. I think it is worth
> saying though, the list is not exclusive to nurses. That is part of its
> value of course, questions can often be answered by professionals with more
> experience, or different experience and qualifications including OH
>
> physicians, health and safety professionals, lawyers and all sorts of other
> specialists. Recently though there has been a fair amount of assumption
> that
> everyone on here is a nurse - particularly in the increasing number of
> woolly job adverts and chat/moans about the RCN. I don't want this post to
> sound like a moan but could we remember that this is a multi-disciplinary
> list and if we want to encourage and benefit from the input of non-nurses
> we
> should be more inclusive in our use of the list and cut out some of the
> chat
> (and woolly job adverts) that just clog up inboxes?
> Just a suggestion ... Sian
>
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