Hi EJ
No problem - and yes we're happy to play reserve.
Given the focus/gap you suggest below I suggest you have a chat with Richard Wilson at Involve ([log in to unmask]) as the 'government' and policy angle has been a focus of theirs for some time, they are very active on a range of fronts, and have particularly good links into various parts of 'government'. Richard is also a member of the PPfC (http://www.ppfc-uk.net/who.shtml), many other members of which would also be very appropriate. Another person who would be useful is Jonathan Pugh at Newcastle, who is involved in setting up the "The Space of Democracy and Democracy of Space" network. Paul Chatterton at Leeds would be very good on the activist link angle given his autonomousgeographies project and role as Secretary of PyGyWG; Pete North at Liverpool (again geog) used to organised seminars for the Local Economy Policy Unit and has good contacts too. I know Giles and the PB people (both Newc and National) - let me know if you want me to forward any message on. Rachel Pain at Durham hosted a conference there in Jan that drew a lot of people from different backgrounds too.
People here could offer stuff/training around participatory appraisal, the use of photography and audio recordings (via mywalks), participatorymapping, comics...
And I'm still not convinced that the writing up stuff is tricky! I'd be interested in doing something around that so that people could convince me otherwise!!
Bests
-----Original Message-----
From: Participatory Video Network Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of EJ Milne
Sent: 12 June 2008 17:59
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New Bid for Participatory Network: suggestions sought
Hi,
Thank you for your thoughts and enthusism about the network. just a quick
thought (piled high with other stuff and will get back with firmer
proposal to everyone in a few days when other deadlines are out of the way).
Excuse the round robin nature of this but time is of the essence.
as the event is meant to be about building an inter-disciplinary network and
with people from different backgrounds we were thinking it could be really
important to address and have some of the conversations about/ between
academics, activists, practitioners, policy makers, research commisioners,
government about this type of work. the conversations I have had figure it's all
very well us doing this work and participating with communities who want this
work but in people's experience the communities are disillusioned (sp?) beacuse
often participatory research is often limited in output to empowrment rather
than actually achieveing anything in terms of getting policy makers/ decision
makers/ governement to change things. What people have suggested strongly to me
is that at present we have lots of conversations between groups of convinced
people or conversations tryong to convince people (which we seldom do), what we
are lacking is conversations between those who are working in this way.
to this end we thought it may invauable to have a conversation between all of
these different groups where we talk about all of this and about the
assumptions we all make about participation or doing this kind of work and get
conversations going. This isnt so that we can convince them of the need for
this kind of work, but rather how we can have a conversation about how they can
use this work/ how we can work with them/ about some of the questions that we as
academics may have for them and that they may have for us (and give them some
training in it at the same time!).
Nadine, I'll take your comments along with the many others that I have received
and then write them up as best we can with a common thread running through. I
think we could add in something about ownership, writing up, co-production of
knowledge and issues which arise around that.
What we are missing is people from outside academia and activists....Im
thinking along lines of members of think tanks, commisioners of research,
policy people, givernemnt, civil service and drawing them into the
conversation. If anyone has any contacts within these groups of people who may
be intrested in joining in a network having these conversations then let me
know.
IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN BEING A CO-INVESTIGATOR THEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP
AND SEND ME A BRIEF CV WHICH I CAN SEND TO ESRC. I NEED CVS BY WEDS 10.30 AM
So far Ive got
Prof Peace, Caroline Holland, Chris High from Open Uni
Rick and Julia from Catchermedia
Joanna Wheeler IDS
Andrew Clark form Leeds NCRM/ ESRC
Ian Kaplan Mancs Uni
Duncan Fuller, Northumbria
Prof Pearce, Graeme Chesters, ICPS Bradford
Frances Cleaver BCID Bradford
Mike Kesby St Andrews
George Butler Mutiny Arts
Jay Mistry, RH London Uni
Approached and waiting to hear from
Prof Ricardo Dominguez, University of California San Diego (Graeme Chesters)
Indymedia (Graeme Chesters approaching them)
John Gaventa (IDS) (Joanna Wheeler Approaching him)
Chris Atton, Napier University (Graeme Chesters approaching him)
Still to ask...if anyone knows these people it would be great if you could ask
them and let me know, if not I will email them tomorrow.
Peter Reason and Sarah White (Bath)
Sam Hickey and Giles Mohan (mancs Uni)
Wahida Shaffi (Freelance consultan/ Muslim Activist) (EJ to ask)
Joseph Rowntree Foundation (EJ to ask)
Jenny Phillimore Birmingham Uni (EJ to ask)
Playback Theatre, Liverpool
Henry Tam, Head of Civil Renewal Unit, Dept of local Govt and Comms (Heather
Blakey to ask)
Participatory Budgeting Unit, Manchester
Newcastle Participatory Budgeting community group
DEMOS
Pof Alice McIntyre
Prof Jan Servaes
IPPR
2 members of community group from Cartagena Columbia (EJ to ask)
2 residents from rio de Janeiro - Joanna Wheeler's Project
Mattais Stiefel (UNSRID)
Anni Raw freelance Art consultant (EJ to ask)
Leif Packalen or Sharad Sharma (freelance Comic Consultants)
any other final ideas and thoughts welcome, I will write it all up next week. At
the moment I have gone back to thinking 3x 2 day events with a day or two tacked
onto each of these events offering capacity building training in diff methods
which will be run by network members for members, other national particpants
and local community groups/ activists/ students/ researchers to attend. These
will include
cyber participation- ricardo dominguez
alternative media/ grass roots media - indymedia, chris napier
theatre - playback theatre
community art- anni raw
photovoice - Ian Kaplan
grass roots comics - Leif Packalen or Sharad Sharma
PV Catchermedia
using community researchers ICPS or Jenny Phillimore
community radio Jay Mistry or Mike Kesby
walking/ mobile interviews - Andrew Clark
if there is a method/ tool you think we should all experience then let me know
asap and suggest someone to run a workshop! if you want to run a workshop then
let me know now so we can put it in bid
This going down to 3 events rather than 4 in 1 year means that we nede to make a
decision about locations. ICPS Bradford will host the first one, Open Uni have
agreed they would like to host one (Chris, do you know Prof Sheila Peace, Dean
of Research for OU? her and Caroline Holland have said they will arrange things
at OU). We had asked IDS for the media/ 3rd workshop. They have said a
provisional yes (subject to officially being agreed, they are discussing it in
house already). This being the case Im afraid that we wouldnt be able to use
Northumbria this time. Duncan, would you be willing to host if either OU or IDS
couldnt host?).
Does anyone have a copy of the successful past PV network bid that I can look at
to see how you did it. would really help me.
Thanks everyone for your support
best
EJ
Quoting Duncan Fuller <[log in to unmask]>:
Yes, Chris/Nadine, absolutely... and/or how not to write it up at all, but do
something more interesting else with it instead...!!!
That links to the one further wondering I've had (I think!) re the programme
concerning whether it wouldn't actually be more profitable (and enjoyable) to
think about how to do good, meaningful, action-laden participatory work
despite government, not spend more time on working out how to convince them of
its merits etc; this is being done to death on a number of fronts by people
with more than a couple of days to spare.
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From: Participatory Video Network Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher High
Sent: 12 June 2008 16:44
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New Bid for Participatory Network: suggestions sought
Dear EJ
Something stuck out for me in what Nadine said - the importance of
thinking through 'how to write such findings up'. I think this is an
area that's difficult for participatory methods for all sorts of
reasons, including things like ownership of information. Beyond that in
terms of purely academic practice and incentives there's something
slippery about how difficult it is to write participatory research up.
IT seems clear to me that something like the network you're thinking
about could properly engage with reporting on research as it's not
something that's settled.
Chris High
Participatory Video Network Discussion List wrote:
> Hi EJ,
>
> Very interesting project and I would love to be involved although I am
> a bit unsure how I can contribute. One thing that came to my mind was
> that I liked about the PV network that we aimed to think about some
> guidelines/ideas how to train people in these methods and I was
> wondering if this would be interesting in this context too (I didn't
> see anything like this captured in your extensive list, but I might
> have overlooked it). I think there is not enough training provided to
> students at the University on how to develop a participatory research
> approac, how to facilitate partipatory action research (which goes
> beyond just thinking about very specific methods)as well as how to
> write such findings up (which probably feeds into your section on
> funding and budgeting which I find very important). So would it be of
> intertest to include that? It does not only mean training for students
> but could extend to ideas about providing support for practicioners as
> well (and to develop it with them...).
>
>
> Looking forward to hear more about the network
>
> Nadine
>
>
>
>
> Nadine Schaefer
> Lecturer Sociology of Youth
> School of Education and Lifelong Learning
> University of Exeter
> Heavitree Road
> EX1 2LU
> Phone: 01392 264768
> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Office: Baring Court, Room 204
>
> Times Higher University of the Year 2007-08
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Participatory Video Network Discussion List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of EJ Milne
> Sent: 10 June 2008 22:44
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: New Bid for Participatory Network: suggestions sought
>
> Hi,
>
> Andrew Clark at Leeds (NCRM/ESRC Real Life Node) and us at the
> International Centre for Participation, University of Bradford have
> been talking a little over the past few days and have in a mad moment,
> got caught up in the idea of submitting a bid to set up a one year
> participatory methods network. It would be extending on and deviating
> off from the work that you all started last year.
>
> The aim would be to set up a network to look at the connection between
> participatory methods and theory. It would be nominally led by us here
> at ICPS (only because I'm based here!) but collaborated on/
> co-proposed by a bunch of people around England and Wales.
>
> I'm hoping that some of you from the PV network would be interested in
> feeding in to (either co-proposing/ advising us with this bid;
> helping with themes; giving us ideas so that it is useful to you and
> your needs -it's to help us carry on working together from the start
> made by the PV network; suggesting speakers, persuading people to be
> part of it etc etc. and if we could possibly see a copy of your
> successful bid for the PV network Chris, that would really help. There
> is a short turn around time but it would be great to have a
> conversation and try to add in some of your ideas.
>
> For those who may want refreshing about what ESRC would be looking
> for, the application form and details are available at
> http://www.ncrm.ac.uk/news/announcements/showAnnounce.php?article=5031
>
> basically they want "applications for Networks for Methodological
> Innovation projects. The aim of this scheme is to enable networks of
> researchers to meet in order to stimulate debate and develop ideas in
> relation to methodological innovation. The scheme allows a series of
> events and related activities to be undertaken over a period of twelve
> months commencing in April 2009. NCRM will typically fund two projects
> per year, with a maximum budget of £24,000 per project. Applications
> are invited on any methodological topic, suggested topics
> are: interdisciplinary working; mixed methods and data integration;
> new forms of data and/or data collection; and finally, research
> evidence for policy.
> Applications are welcome from all social science disciplines."
>
> So.....I brain stormed ideas around this with Andrew and Jenny Pearce (our
> Director) as I had been thinking about a series like this as part of
> my post doc (which I'm hoping that I will get but, you never know, I
> could be miserably unemployed come January). We came up with some
> suggestions for putting in an application which you will find below.
> This is a rough idea but at present thinking is along the following
> (very rough!) lines. Do also feel free to add/ comment/ subtract etc
> etc as your wisdom/ contacts etc lead. I may also be cheeky and post
> a copy of the more final bid for final comments later.
>
> Title: Making a Change: Participatory Methods, Government and Policy
> (sexier suggestions welcomed)
>
> PI: Dr EJ Milne, ICPS University of Bradford
>
> Co Investigators (suggested not approached yet. Tell me if you would
> like to be
> added!)
> Drs Andrew Clarke and Nick Emmel, NCRM/ ESRC Leeds Uni Dr Caroline
> Holland and Prof Sheila Peace (OU) Prof Jenny, Dr Graeme Chesters,
> ICPS, Uni Bradford Dr Joanna Wheeler and some others at IDS and
> anyone else suggested to be involved below who wants to go on it plus
> anyone out there who is willing to sign up to this... just let me know).
>
> Events: 4x 2 day events at different locations around England and Wales
> 1. ICPS, Dept of Peace Studies, Uni Bradford
> Theorising Participatory Methods
> 2. Open Uni or Birmingham (depending on who wants it!)
> Participatory Methods and Policy Making
> 3. London/ Northumbria/ Durham/ Newcastle (depending on who wants
> it!)
> Participatory Research Methods and Government
> 4. IDS, Uni of Sussex
> Participatory Media in Research
>
> Theme:
> 'Taking stock but moving forward'. A lot of work has been done over
> the past decade which looks at Participatory Methods however this
> seems to have been done in silos. This series of events will allow a
> network of academics, policy makers, those involved in making
> government and grassroots practitioners to come together to reflect on
> where participatory research is going in the UK? We aim to provide a
> network thinks critically about the past to see what has been learnt
> and to reflect what in the field of study could be taken further. It
> will be a year where we take stock of where we have got to in the
> theoretical process, with our tools and practices and where we will
> critically reflect as to whether participatory theory and methods have
> been successful in building/ feeding in to policy and discussing how
> we can move forward to better enable us to affect policy and bring
> participation to a wider audience.
>
> Make up:
> We would envisage each 2 day event as being a combination of the
> following:
> 1. 2x 30 minute presentations from key note speakers. These will
> be more theory
> based
> 2. reflective spaces where 2/3 facilitators would have 10-15
> mins to throw out
> some ideas/ thoughts to facilitate critical reflections and
> discussions. These sessions would last around 1 and ½ hours.
> 3. Workshop spaces where facilitators will run activity spots so
> that people can
> participate in different trying out/ thinking through/ debating/
> critiquing different participatory methods/ techniques/ theory.
>
> Overview
> 1. Theorising Participatory Methods, ICPS
> John Gaventa (IDS)
> Jenny Pearce (ICPS)
> Peter Reason (Bath)
> Sarah White (Bath)
> Frances Cleaver and Tom Cockburn (BCID/ SSIS/ ICPS Bradford) Sam
> Hickey and Giles Mohanty (Mancs) Mike Kesby (St Andrews -
> Participation and Power) and...hoping that people will suggest other/
> different key participation theorists who we could invite to
> facilitate/ speak
>
> 2. Participatory Methods and Policy Making, Open Uni or Birmingham Uni
>
> event with thinking/ workshops/ papers with following invited to present:
>
> Caroline Holland and Sheila Peace (OU, policy towards older people)
> Jenny Phillimore (Birmingham, housing policy) JRF Team (ICPS community
> development policy) Wahidda Shaffi (Muslim Women's Peace Activist
> Bradford) Duncan Fuller (Northumbria and with RGS-IBG participatory
> Geographies, would you be interested Duncan?) Anni Raw (Freelance
> Consultant in Art and Participation) Team from Lancaster on Community
> based arts and policy making (Can't remember their name!) (??)
>
> 3. Participatory Research Methods and Government (location up for
> grabs)
>
> Participatory Budgeting ESRC ICPS practitioner fellows (??)
> Participatory Budgeting Unit, Manchester Karl Oxford Yorks and Humber
> Regional Govt ????
> Please suggest things/ people for here.... to include academics, govt,
> civil service, think tanks, policy makers, practitioners/ activists
>
> 4. Participatory Media, IDS
>
> Andrew Clark and Nick Emmel (leeds Research using mobile technology)
> Latin America and Community Participation (x 2 people from Cartagena)
> Joanne Wheeler IDS (+2 people from her PV project in Rio) Playback
> Theatre, Liverpool (Participatory Theatre) Steve from Abuja, Nigeria
> Catchermedia, UK (young people and Participatory Video (would you be
> interested in taking part?) ) Photography and participation (EJ or
> Ian Kaplin Leeds met/ Mancs Uni?) Chris Atton (Napier University,
> alternative media) Indymedia (grassroots media activists, alternative
> media)
>
> As I said if you want to add, subtract, contribute ideas ( especially
> around names who could come and facilitate and how to tie it all
> together then please do. The deadline is on the 20th so we would have
> to move fast.
>
> Hoping that we can possibly put things together. Im having a meeting
> up here tomorrow (weds) afternoon to discuss it/ flesh it out further.
> Know it is short notice so thoughts can come in after that if you cant
> fit it in te very short time I have given (!) We haven't officially
> approached anyone as yet (as those of you on the list will realise!)
> so they really are all up for grabs and discussion. Similarly, if you
> personally know names on the list it would be great if you could let
> me know...you may be able to persuade them better than an out of the
> blue email by me, an unknown!
>
> all the best
> EJ
>
>
> Dr EJ Milne
> Research Fellow
> International Centre for Participation Studies Department of Peace
> Studies University of Bradford Bradford BD7 1DP
>
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