On 26 Jun 2008, at 13:00, Tom Franklin wrote:

> Always the optimist!
No, just describing our experience.

>  Can you assure me that if I put my stuff in the IR,
> and that I correctly fill in the metadata (a huge assumption, but  
> lets make
> it), then whenever there is a request for biblometric type  
> information that
> it will be in there
Well I can't speak for other repositories, but that's how we designed  
(and used) EPrints.

> and that the people assembling wont want some special
> additional information that I didn't include?
If a request for information comes from an external agency and it is  
necessary to add some new information then the new information will  
have to be added to the repository. It all depends WHO is asking and  
WHY. HEFCE made us all find the month of publication of our RAE  
returns - that was a nasty surprise!

>  If not then I will probably
> have to do a whole load of rekeying in the format that they  
> demand....... So
> why bohter?
If the format (as in layout) needs to be changed then whoever is  
collecting the data can change the stylesheet. Or get help changing  
the style sheet from someone who knows how to do stylesheets.
If the format (as in citation style) needs changing then pretty much  
the same comment applies - the required data can be extracted in XML  
and a completely new citation style can be implemented. You can do  
that in the XML stylesheet language, or you can do it in a scripting  
language.

Either way, it is just a matter of getting the administration to re- 
present my existing data. Not me re-typing data with italics in  
different places.
--
Les


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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Repositories discussion list
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Les Carr
>> Sent: 26 June 2008 12:03
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: It's Keystrokes All the Way Down
>>
>> The keystrokes argument is not "keystrokes or nothing" but
>> "one set of keystrokes now or repeated keystrokes later". In
>> other words, you can type in the details for your articles
>> now, into a repository and have all the future administration
>> requests for lists of publications satisfied by a query to
>> the repository without having to ask you. Or you can eschew
>> the repository and receive regular administrative and
>> management requests for your lists of publications that you
>> have to deal with yourself (last year's publications?
>> publications funded by government? collaborative publications
>> with other universities? best publications in the last 6 years?).
>>
>> You may well have been entering the keystrokes into your own
>> private BibTeX or EndNote database anyway, so just have them
>> imported into your repository. That's hardly any additional
>> effort, but it deals with the requests described above.
>>
>> As Oscar Wilde once said about Open Access "the only thing
>> worse than depositing in a repository is not depositing in a
>> repository".
>> ---
>> Les Carr
>