Fascinating!
Well, now, K, wanting to be "upper class" (again, wotever that means
precisely!) seems a universal desire! Folks generally want wotever those
who're "better off" have. Has that ever been different anywhere? I doubt
it.
I'm still confused about the term "working class". The impression I'm
getting from mostly socialist analyses is that those who've not gone to a
university are considered "working class", whether they're making as much
money---or more---as/than the "middle class" (which I'd always figured was a
working class!).
I'd like to get more of a feel for wot those in other countries than mine
(USAmerica) regard as their "working class"---and have the term denoted as
well as connoted, as you have done here.
Judy
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From: "kasper salonen" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: New beats (???)
2008/5/25 judy prince <[log in to unmask]>:
> Anybody out there willing to define, describe---specify---wot "working"
> class means to them, to any of us, to UK'ers, to USAmericans, to
> Australians, to Italians, to Finns?
hm. to finns (to ME), it's the idealistic, honest, semi-socialist,
not-quite-actual remnant of tougher times, when it was real people who
put the 'work' in 'working class'. if struggling finances were enough
to designate people as working class, every student I know would be;
despite the 'high education' we're getting for free.
the term working class (työväenluokka) is one of the most vividly
antiquated finnish words I can imagine. to use it negatively is a
massive faux pas, to use it positively is tongue-in-cheek.
I get the feeling that most finns want to be upper class, & it
aggravates me no damn end.
KS
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