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Re: qualifications

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WJH <[log in to unmask]>

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Mandarin Chinese Teaching <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:58:20 -0700

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Dear Ruiying

Another question: did the EBITT ask you to get your
qualifications from China to be recognised by NARIC?
Oxon-Bucks partnership asks for this but I'm not sure
what NARIC will say to my Diploma in Chinese Language
and Literature Education. I didn't have a transcript
either.

Thanks very much

Jane

--- ruiying du <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


---------------------------------

Hi there,

 

Me again! I have just gained QTS through the OTT
programme. I did it through a london EBITT, which is
very close to Stratford. The following is their
contact details. Were you trained as a secondary
teacher or primary school teacher? From my experience,
if you have got a diploma instead of degree in a
normal college, it is likely to be assessed as primary
qualification. Therefore you will be assessed in a
primary school. There is a lot of information, if you
are interested, please call me. I will give you my
number through your personal email adress because this
is a group email and the info goes to everybody.

 

Ruiying

 

SCITTELS OTT" <[log in to unmask]>Add sender
to Contacts 

--- On Thu, 10/4/08, WJH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: WJH <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: qualifications
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, 10 April, 2008, 8:03 PM


Thanks ever so much for your advice and for
sharingyour experiences, Ruiying and Betty. I'm very
new tothis field and it'll take me a little while to
takeall the information in!I was indeed trained as a
Chinese teacher in a normalcollege in China. I've just
looked at the OverseasTrained Teachers Programme as
suggested and it looksvery interesting. If anyone are
on the OTTP with an employment basedinitial teacher
training provider (EBITT), or have gota QTS via this
route, I'd be really interested to hearwhat it's
like!Best wishes,Jane Wang--- ruiying du
<[log in to unmask]>
wrote:---------------------------------Hi there, PGCE
will be better, otherwise you have to do anothercourse
to get QTS. If you don't mind me asking, were you
trained as ateacher in a normal university in China?
Because, aslong as you have been trained as a teacher,
you canactually work in the UK for up to four years
withoutgaining QTS, as long as you can get a job,
which isnot normally that easy, unless you do some
supplyteaching first or if you just want to teach
Chinese,some voluntary work in a Chinese teaching
school. Basically, you don;t have to do another PGCE,
if youalready got a Chinese
teachingqualification--degree/diploma from a normal
universityor college. Voluntary work will give a
insight of whatyou want to do and it does not have to
be that long.It will give references, which really
helps. If youchoose to do voluntary work, you have to
actuallyteach one or two lesson and try to do what the
teacherdoes towards the end, so the reference will be
goodfor future job hunting. Voluntary work might lead
tosomewhere anyway. Knowing the right people
isimportant.  If you choose to teach without doing any
course as Ihave said, you will need to get QTS withing
four yearsof your teaching, which is not that hard at
all. Youjust need to hand in some evidences, and be
observed. The downside of this is that you might not
be paid alot before you qualified as a teacher. PGCE
is themost straight forward way. From my
understanding, theSOAS course does not offer you a
opportunity towardQTS, which is essential if you want
to teach in UKmaintained schools. If you want to teach
in Collegelevel or Private schools, you don't need to
worryabout QTS and you will be paid more. So if there
aresuitable private schools close to where you
live,doing some voluntary work there is the best
start, Ipersonally think this.  I have just ranted on
for so long. If you have anyother questions, please
email me. I am currentlyteaching in London as a
primary teacher, but notteaching Chinese. I have
explored ways of gaining QTS,but not so familiar with
the Chinese teaching side ofit. The above is just my
own opinion. I hope I did notmislead you. Best wishes
with your career. Regards, Ruiying--- On Thu, 10/4/08,
WJH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:From: WJH
<[log in to unmask]>Subject: qualificationsTo:
[log in to unmask]:
Thursday, 10 April, 2008, 5:41 AMDear All,I¡¯ve just
signed up for this forum andthought that Iwould try
and send this around. Hopeyou¡¯ll be ableto help me
find the best way to becomea qualifiedChinese teacher.
Very glad to join you!Iworked as a Chinese Teacher in
a secondary schoolinChina for two years after
obtaining a BA inChineseLanguage and Literature
Education. Although Ihavebeen in UK for some 7 years,
it¡¯s only recentlythatI thought seriously about
entering the professionofTCFL. My 4-year-old son, who
is in pre-school, isspeakingmore and more English
despite our constanteffort ofspeaking only in Mandarin
at home. We are soconcernedabout this that I¡¯ve
decided to give up mycurrentjob so that I can teach
him and anotherchild(daughter of our friends) Chinese
after schoolfromSeptember when he¡¯ll go to the local
school. ThenIthought perhaps I could teach Chinese in
aschoolsetting one day?Having read through
theinformative web pages aboutChinese
professionaldevelopment on SAAT website, Istill have
somequestions. I¡¯ve browsed online theGoldsmiths
PGCESecondary (flexible programme) andSOAS CTCFL
course,which are the two closest to Oxfordwhere I
live. Itlooks that for the PGCE course, one
wouldneedlanguages skills in a third language
(preferablyoneof the main European languages) in
addition toEnglishand Chinese. Another drawback is
that itinvolves24-week school placement, with which I
won¡¯thave anyproblems in two years¡¯ time as long as
Icould beassigned to a local school. But at the
momentI alsohave a 2-year-old toddler to look after.
Becauseofour ¡®failure¡¯ in making his elder brother
anativeMandarin speaker, I would very much like
towithdrawhis nursery place from September. Hopefully
inthecrucial period of his language development,
he¡¯llgetmore exposure of Chinese and therefore
developChineseas mother tongue.I know PGCE would be
the bestway of gaining a QTS butthe requirement of a
Europeanlanguage puts my off. I¡¯m not confident that
I¡¯ll beable to master Frenchin just two years, even
if Istart now.  Is itessential to meet this
requirement?As for the CTCFL course, it would suit me
well intermsof time commitment because classes are
onSaturdays.However, it¡¯s more like an
initialintroduction. Willit serve as a good
qualificationfor the purpose ofseeking employment? Or
maybe it canhelp one find anemployer who agrees to
sponsor theGPT? Sorry for thelength of this message. I
would be verygrateful forany
information/advice/comments you mightbe able togive
me.Many thanksJane
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