>Occasionally I'll look at this and think, fine. However I always
return to the Ugric language group: how come the Hungarian Ugric and
the Ob Ugric are so far apart geographically? Same continent, but
that's a long distance between the two groups. Can anyone elucidate?<
People have feet. And horses. Well, some of Hun anyhow.
On 11/04/2008, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Occasionally I'll look at this and think, fine. However I always
> return to the Ugric language group: how come the Hungarian Ugric and
> the Ob Ugric are so far apart geographically? Same continent, but
> that's a long distance between the two groups. Can anyone elucidate?
>
> re: Nostratic: The prevailing impression of the Nostratic hypothesis
> was summed up by Edward Finnegan in the witticism, "there's too much
> there to be nothing, but not enough there to be something."
> (quoted from the Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostratic)
>
> Roger
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > London Review of Books, cover date 10 April 2008
> >
> > The Land East of the Asterisk
> >
> > Wendy Doniger on the Indo-Europeans
> >
> > http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n07/doni01_.html
> >
> > Indo-European Poetry and Myth by M.L. West
> >
> > Nineteenth-century German and British linguists, building on some
> > 18th-century hunches, uncovered the connections between members of a large
> > (and rather dysfunctional) family of languages that included ancient Greek,
> > Latin, Hittite (in ancient Anatolia), Vedic Sanskrit (in ancient India),
> > Avestan (in ancient Iran), the Celtic and Norse-Germanic languages and,
> > ultimately, French, German, Italian, Spanish, English and all their friends
> > and relations.
> >
> > They called the family Indo-European or Indo-Germanic or Indo-Aryan, and
> > assumed that, some time in the fourth millennium BCE, the single parent
> > language, Proto-Indo-European (as easy as PIE), broke apart to give birth to
> > the more ancient languages of the group, which continued to branch off into
> > sub-groups.
> >
> > There are no attested examples of the parent language before the break-up;
> > the Indo-European speakers almost certainly had no knowledge of writing, and
> > the earliest example of any Indo-European language that we have is a
> > 14th-century BCE Anatolian treaty in Hittite that calls on the Hittite
> > version of several Vedic gods.
> >
> > The reconstructed, hypothetical forms of Indo-European therefore, are
> > usually designated with an apologetic or apotropaic asterisk.
> >
> > Thus *H1ekwo-, for instance, or more simply *ekwos, the PIE word for
> > horseš, yields the Latin equus, Gallic epos, Greek hippos, Sanskrit as´va,
> > Old English eoh and so forth.
> >
> > Martin West, who has written what is surely the definitive book on
> > Indo-European language and religion, states his case well...etc etc.
> >
>
>
>
>
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