Hi Helen
When our HER was set up a decision seems to have been taken to fix the parish boundaries as they were published in the Victoria County Histories and we have stuck with that. Probably a bit of a no-no as far as data standards goes but quite useful as they are quite a good indicator of the medieval parish in our area.
Like Nick I also think that a lot of the fields in our HER database have become redundant as we can now manage this data through GIS e.g. parish, geology, map quartersheet.
Peter
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Subject: Re: Changes to parishes etc - how does everyone cope with this?
Hi Helen
not sure if you have had many responses to this but here goes.
This has happened to us to - we have had some parishes merge over time, and some even split.
Generally I rely on our GIS team updating this, and noticing that the parishes have changed (it doesn't happen that often) when editing data.
Not sure what the difference between parish types is, but am not greatly concerned as the main reason we log parishes is to help with filing (our system is parish based).
We kept old parishes as non-current in our system, but to be honest I am increasingly wondering why we record this, as it is extremely rare that people ask for records by parish - its usually map defined these days.
hope that helps
best wishes
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>>> "Helen Wells (archaeology)" <[log in to unmask]> 10/04/2008 11:54 >>>
Hello,
Whilst checking through our data I discovered changes to parishes, such
as the parish of Stretton Magna being consumed by Little Stretton
(ironically). I've changed the records on our HER but I wondered how
other people cope with this. I noticed that English Heritage's
searchable websites no longer have Stretton Magna but do have Little
Stretton, so their stuff is more up to date than ours... Do people get
notifications from somewhere when parishes change? I only noticed the
changes when I used the 'query tool' on the parish layer we're provided
centrally. I presume we have to have our parish data up to date to
enable cross searching when we get onto the Gateway...
Also, some parishes have become 'non civil parishes' - Oadby and Wigston
is no longer two parishes but rather one large 'non civil parish'. Does
anyone know what this is? The EH data seems to have a 'parish' called
Oadby and Wigston, which pulls everything up, so there's no
differentiation on the Gateway between 'non civil parish' and normal
parish. Is a non civil parish still a parish? I have no idea! :)
I hope this makes some sense. At present we're thinking we'll change
any old parishes to be 'not current' on our system and possibly add
'NCP' to the names of the things that aren't parishes. Most of the
'NCPs' seem to be old parishes rather than merged things like Oadby and
Wigston. Hopefully this is the most sensible thing to do... If anyone
can work out what I mean I'd value your thoughts.
Thanks,
Helen Wells
Assistant Planning Archaeologist/Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
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