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Re: DARTEL

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William Baaré <[log in to unmask]>

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William Baaré <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:33:24 +0100

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Hi John.

I successfully ran dartel on several data sets I have. Thanks again  
for the code below.
As I want  to report findings in MNI coordinates I followed your  
guidelines in dartel_guide.pdf and generated  a composite of the  
Dartel flow field and the sn.mat file containing the affine  
transformation of the template6.nii to the apriori grey.nii and  
applied it to the c1*.nii files.

The next thing I want to do is to modulate the resulting spatial  
normalized files. I would preferably be able to modulate "Affine+  
nonlinear" warps and "non-linear" warps only as I would like to look  
at the effects of using different schemes for correcting global size  
differences. How would I do this??


vh

William


P.S. My attempt to generate a jacobian determinant image based on the  
y_ * image using spm2_def2det_ui failed as it could not load the 2nd  
and third volume. Looking at the "y" image using fslview, I could only  
see the first volume. Any idea what might be wrong?








On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:59 PM, John Ashburner wrote:

> Hi Wim,
>
>> I decided to experiment with DARTEL. At the import stage I would like
>> to re-use the segmentations I created using the VBM5 toolbox,  which
>> are somewhat nicer than those created at the DARTEL import stage (see
>> attached picture, lower image is DARTEL output). The latter is partly
>> because I included a 3d T2 weighted image to automatically  
>> generated a
>> brain mask in my setup.  What would be the easiest way to do this?
>
> The following piece of code (along with the attached file) will  
> apply the
> required rigid-body transforms to the images, creating r_*.nii files  
> that
> DARTEL can work with.  These should all be approximately aligned  
> with each
> other.  Note that the headers of these files contain two different  
> affine
> transform matrices.  The main one ensures that the rigidly aligned  
> images
> appear to be rigidly aligned, whereas the other encodes a mapping that
> theoretically enables the images to be put back into alignment with  
> the
> originals.
>
> mat = spm_select(1,'_seg_sn\.mat','Select the segmentation  
> parameters');
> P=spm_select(Inf,'image','Select the nice image segments');
> odir = '.';
> bb = NaN*ones(2,3);
> vx = 1.5;
> import_for_dartel(mat,P,odir,bb,vx)
>
> It may be an idea to script it all by:
>
> mat = spm_select(Inf,'_seg_sn\.mat','Select the segmentation  
> parameters');
> K=3;
> P=cell(1,K);
> for k=1:K,
>    P{k}=spm_select(size(mat,1),'image','Select the nice image  
> segments');
> end
> odir = '.';
> bb = NaN*ones(2,3);
> vx = 1.5;
> for i=1:size(mat,1),
>    PP = '';
>    for k=1:3, PP = strvcat(PP,P{k}(i,:)); end
>    import_for_dartel(mat(i,:),PP,odir,bb,vx)
> end
>
>
>
>>
>> Also as I have quite ok CSF segmentions, would DARTEL benefit from
>> including them (in principle)?
>
> It could, providing they are equally nice for all subjects.
>
> All the best,
> -John
> <import_for_dartel.m>

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William  Baaré Ph.D.       Senior Researcher

Danish Centre for Magnetic resonance
MR-department, 340
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