And of course this kind of nonsense reinforces the idea there is something
called depression that can be "alleviated" by whatever intervention.
C
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Anti depressants 'of little use'
> Here is the link to the study
> http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0050045
>
> and to the University of Hull Press Release
> http://www.hull.ac.uk/news/feb08/antidepressants.html
>
> What interests me about this study is the issue of publication bias. By
> including all unpublished data the effect can be evaluated properly - it
> would seem that previous studies, including those used by NICE
> systematically over-estimate the effect of the SSRIs.
>
> It is also interesting that the difference between placebo and drug for
> the most severely depressed people is attributed to a falling off of the
> placebo effect rather than drug efficacy as such.
>
> We might ask a) is there a similar effect with CBT - what are the
> publication biases here? what do the unpublished studies tell us? and b)
> since there is no equivalent to the FDA or equivalent for psychotherapies
> there would seem to be no analogous dataset that could be interrogated to
> reveal such an effect.
>
> What is likely to happen as a result of theis study (led by a
> psychologist) is an even greater emphasis on individual talking therapy -
> so this study won't necessarily lead to more emphasis on social
> interventions.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Elaine Douglas wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Just spotted this news item on the BBC website related to findings
>> recently published from Hull.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7263494.stm
>>
>> Would this be an appropriate article for the list to add backing to the
>> ineffectiveness of anti depressants? There were good efforts to get a
>> statement out to the media on CBT recently. Perhaps something similar
>> here would be good. Additionally, perhaps those more involved/aware
>> (than
>> myself) in the SUG might wish to get a statement going from there? I am
>> willing to assist in the process.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Elaine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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