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Re: OTO news. Couple jailed for contempt in vilification case

From:

Caroline Tully <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Society for The Academic Study of Magic <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:06:18 -0800

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Hi Felicia.
Sigh,... yes those sorts of people *are* dangerous. And they are just the 
types of people who need to read David Frankfurter's book "Evil Incarnate: 
Rumours of Demonic Conspiracy and Satanic Abuse in History" (Princeton Uni 
Press 2006) but who never will. They, for some reason, want to remain 
ignorant of what the OTO really does and continue on with the masochistic 
pleasure they get from *imagining* some sort of fantastic depraved 
scenario... Why they actually *want* to live in a world of craziness I don't 
know. There's a lot more info in the story that what Barney (religions 
reporter) writes in the paper, but I haven't made a big effort to actually 
go to the court cases and follow it all closely - basically because I don't 
need to pollute my brain with ugliness when I'm trying to cram it with 
fascinating and pleasurable material - so I really only get the info second 
hand from my OTO cohorts and today, from the newspaper. The OTO actually 
don't want members to discuss it on the internet, so I just forward what is 
common knowledge ie, from the paper. But I'll just say that I know Barney 
Zwartz (the reporter) a bit and its interesting that he doesn't exactly 
write the whole thing up in a way that the casual reader could understand as 
being *postivive* for the OTO.. I mean it doesn't explain how the OTO does 
_not_ do these alleged things and what it does do instead... I guess he's 
only got a certain amount of room. Also, Barney is a religions Christian 
type of guy, and I think that he'd find the OTO really quite weird, so the 
way he's reported it is actually quite good -for him.

~Caroline.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Felicia" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] OTO news. Couple jailed for contempt in 
vilification case


> On Feb 21, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Caroline Tully wrote:
>>
>>
>> Legg and Devine are now represented by Victorian Legal Aid, which is 
>> believed to be considering either a Supreme Court appeal against the 
>> sentence or an apology to VCAT with a request to remit the rest of the 
>> prison sentence.
>
> Caroline,
>
> Thank you for the update.
> In view of the fact that Devine and Legg published the names and addresses 
> of OTO members as well as the address of a home rented by a couple with 
> young children, and that there are people outside of prison who are 
> carrying the torch for gaiaguys' message of hatred, continuing to suggest 
> burning down OTO temples and the homes of OTO members, thus endangering 
> the lives of that family (not OTO members) and others, I am sorry to hear 
> that an apology to VCAT might be considered adequate for remission of the 
> rest of the prison sentences.  It is disgusting that these lying sacks of 
> excrement are not serving time for the hate crime they have committed but 
> merely for contempt of court.
> 

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