That's interesting. I would have never guessed. Isn't Objectivism
tarnished for you by its major presence for language poetry?
Barry Alpert
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:01:17 -0500, Frederick Pollack
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>From: "Barry Alpert" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Fw: Poems by others: John Yau, "Stuffing yourself into a
>blizzard"
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>Could you describe these in detail and indicate how they are more
>generative than the examples of Duchamp/Stein/Cage for virtually every art
>idiom?
>
>Barry Alpert
>
>
>On December 31, 2007 Frederick Pollack wrote:
>
>There are other, more combative and, in several senses, more radical
>Modernisms.
>
>
>"Describe them in detail"? Hell no. That sounds like work. Or
>scholarship. I can mention some names and terms that have meant something
>for my work. Brecht / Epic Theater; his poetry, and later German styles
>like Enzensberger's and Bachmann's. Oppen, Reznikoff / "Objectivism."
>Russian Constructivism and Formalism - the utopian architecture of
Leonidov,
>the art of Rodchenko, Shklovsky's lucid and pertinent prose, Serge's
novels.
>The Expressionism of Beckmann and Benn. "Generative" ... interesting word.
>Important to academics. I personally wouldn't care if every other poet in
>the world splattered desyntacticated denarrativized delicate or off-the-
wall
>phrases over every page of print or the Web. I would go on trying to
>capture my time (its hopes, guilts, prospects, stories, and, if you'll
>excuse the expression, emotions and people) in verse, would commune with
the
>past and await, as I do, the judgment of the future.
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