And then there is this, on the national character of composers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7JPCgfe8A
jd
On Jan 3, 2008 6:08 PM, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I am referring to Dvorak's stay in Sillville, what a wonderful story,
> thanks.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 11:26 PM, Stephen Vincent <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I once researched a book on Iowa. Dvorak spent several months - a
> > 'vacation' - in Spillville, a Czech speaking community. However, this
> was
> > after he had spent several months in New York as a teacher, etc. with
> > pupils, including African-Americans, from all over the country.
> Apparently
> > he was all ears for diverse America folk musics. See:
> > http://www.spillvilleiowa.com/dvorak/dvorak.html
> > Evidence suggests, it would seem, that Bernstein - lovable, creative
> and
> > informed as he could be - was not so informed when it came to Dvorak.
> > "Spillville" - somebody must have gotten there to name it before the
> > Czech's - but it must have been wonderful to hear the Czech
> pronunciation!
> >
> > Stephen
> > http://stephenvincent.net/blog/
> >
> >
> > Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Bernstein, in a tv talk about
> > Dvorak's New World Symphony, questioned
> > the old standby that it was full of American musical themes. He
> > pointed out that Dvorak spent his entire trip, except when
> > performing, in the Moravian settlements of Pennsylvania, and probably
> > didn't get to hear much "american" music. Nonetheless, the slow
> > movement became the ersatz negro [sic] spiritual "Going Home."
> > Bernstein suggested that this was a product of US imagination. Would
> > it sound different if we imagined the words "Czechoslovakia, how I
> > long for thee?"
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > At 01:29 PM 1/3/2008, you wrote:
> > >That would be the Daniel Jones who was childhood chums
> > >with Dylan Thomas, verdad?
> > >
> > >Hal
> > >
> > >"There's a balance. There's a ying and a yang."
> > > --Tony Soprano
> > >
> > >Halvard Johnson
> > >================
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/index.html<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Ehalvard/index.html>
> > >http://entropyandme.blogspot.com
> > >http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com
> > >http://www.hamiltonstone.org
> > >http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/vidalocabooks.html<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Ehalvard/vidalocabooks.html>
> > >
> > >
> > >On Jan 2, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Douglas Barbour wrote:
> > >
> > >>Well, like Fred, I found the footnote fascinating, & the comment on
> > >>Janacek, whose String Quartets I am coming to love.
> > >>
> > >>This point is interesting to me with reference to the quartets of
> > >>Daniel Jones -- romantically modern in their Welsh way....
> > >>
> > >>Doug
> > >>On 31-Dec-07, at 3:27 PM, Roger Day wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>the cadences of all the various Englishes are different also. I
> > >>>wonder
> > >>>if Patel means English English, which as chalk to cheese compared to,
> > >>>say, Welsh English etc. It's PC to say British English but as we all
> > >>>know, Britain doesn't really exist.
> > >>>
> > >>>Roger
> > >>>
> > >>>On Dec 31, 2007 10:09 PM, Max Richards wrote:
> > >>>> From a footnote [p.242]in Oliver Sacks's new book, Musicophilia...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>'What makes the music of Sir Edward Elgar sound so distinctively
> > >>>>English?'
> > >>>>they [Iversen, Patel and Ohgushi of the Neurosciences Institute]
> > >>>>ask. 'What
> > >>>>makes the music of Debussy sound so French?
> > >>Douglas Barbour
> > >>11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> > >>Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> > >>(780) 436 3320
> > >>http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/<http://www.ualberta.ca/%7Edbarbour/>
> > >>
> > >>Latest book: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> > >>http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> > >>
> > >>Oh, goddamnit, we forgot the silent prayer.
> > >>
> > >> Dwight D, Eisenhower
> > >> [at a cabinet meeting]
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Anny Ballardini
> http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/
> http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome
> http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html
> I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one to give birth to a dancing
> star!
>
--
Joseph Duemer
Professor of Humanities
Clarkson University
[sharpsand.net]
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