I'd rather agree with this last statement,
even though
and here we go
the binary automatically stands out according to the different personalities
we are facing, and inevitably.
A Ronnic figure, to quote Gabe, is just so voracious in his readings that
you cannot do as if he did not exist, besides being punctual and clear,
dedicated and more.
As much as Marjorie Perloff can be. They do receive my respect.
On Jan 28, 2008 1:36 AM, Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Gabe: "Effects" is an interesting word! These are my last effects.
> Aesthetic
> effects. This deeply effects me (from a Freshman essay). Mark is, as far
> as
> I know, out only certified psychotherapist, so I'll leave the final
> diagnosis to him.
>
> Mark: I thought Gabe was trying to enlarge the field by opposing poetry to
> people. I saw it as an attempt to undermine the binary rather than to
> reinforce it.
>
> jd
>
> On Jan 27, 2008 7:21 PM, Gabriel Gudding <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > In reverse order.
> >
> > Rupert: I like the verb "diatribed" but do beg your pardon. I looked up
> > "diatribe" and found that it's a bitter attack. There wasn't a trace of
> > bitterness in my mind when I wrote that. I feel only great fondness
> > toward Ron -- and would say the same thing to his face with a smile on
> > mine. What his blog does is less a function of Ron than a function of
> > the field. You're probably pretty correct in saying that my blog has
> > Ronnic features.
> >
> > Joe: I have a thing about cheeks.
> >
> > Mark: I don't oppose Ron qua Ron. I oppose that approach to the field.
> > It's not that I disagree with Ron in particular; it's that I don't
> > believe in literature *in general*. There is nothing inherently Ronnic
> > that I find bothersome. I see that very approach to literature (where
> > literature is an object of fetish about which one constructs, furthers
> > or bolsters belief) as fundamentally problematic.
> >
> > I see what Ron does as no different from what many others do. His
> > particular project isn't that much different from what William Wimsatt
> > did, or Monroe Beardsley, or Cleanth Brooks, or John Crowe Ransom. He's
> > just using different terminology. Its effect is the same. So, there is
> > no anti-Ron there. Just anti-fetish.
> >
> > Anny: I seriously doubt any fetishizing of you would have side effects!
> > But let Joe be the judge of that.
> >
> > Gabe
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Joseph Duemer
> Professor of Humanities
> Clarkson University
> [sharpsand.net]
>
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