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It seems to me that the A- adjective has been wholly soughts and earned by the wall building regime, if not its people
David
>>> Manuel Aalbers <[log in to unmask]> 01/29/08 9:16 PM >>>
I forwarded this e-mail to the Urban Sociology discussion list and got one
reply, a very negative one.
Please see below my reply to that e-mail and the negative reply itself.
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Dear Barry,
It was not me who used the words "Apartheid Wall" but the e-mail I
forwarded, but I surely can take responsibility for forwarding that e-mail.
As the video shows, the wall:
- is built against UN resolutions
- goes deep into Pal. territories
- does not respect the original West Bank borders
- takes natural resources from Pal. and transfers those to Israel. (e.g.
Some Pal. areas that are full of water resources are now being included in
Israeli territory)
- segregates Pal. families from their relatives and their jobs
- destroys Pal. houses and they don't get any compensation for that
In normal words, this is called stealing land.
If Israel wants to built a security wall, why don't they do it on the
official borders instead of taking more and more lands from the Pal. I have
NOTHING against the Israeli defending themselves against the Pal. but it
does bother me how they do this (and see the UN resolutions on this).
What this is doing on an urban sociology forum? Well, what is happening is a
very active way of ghettoization (the video explains this) and isn't
ghettoization all about politics? What shcoks me is that most Western
governments let this happen while there is a UN resolution that says that
this is wrong. What also surrpises me is that this issue is hardly picked up
on by critical urban researchers. It has everything to do with urban
inequality, race/ethnicty and ghettoes.
(Being Dutch, I grew up in a pro-Israel environment just like people growing
up in the US and many other Western countries, but I think the time has come
to be more critical of Israeli policies. The UN resolution is no joke.)
Manuel
2008/1/29, Barry Wellman <[log in to unmask]>: - Tekst uit
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> I gotta say that I was personally upset by Manuel Aalbers other posting,
> in which he talked about the "Apartheid Wall," by which I think he meant
> the wall built by Israel. As I recall, this wall was built as a measure
> against the suicide bombing by some Palestinians of Israeli civilians, and
> on those terms it has worked, at the cost of disrupting some on-the-border
> Palestinians' lives. It probably has saved some of my friends' lives. I
> recall an Arab-owned restaurant in Haifa that was blown up (including the
> owners) two weeks after I ate there.
>
> Perhaps Dr Aalbers was engaging in what he sees as typical Dutch
> bluntness, but I thought it was a piece of propaganda -- and I wondered
> what the heck it was doing in an Urban-Community sociology forum.
>
> I am really tired of casual anti-Israeli chatter.
>
> As a founder of this list, I have always valued its professional focus,
> and lack of flaming.
>
> Barry Wellman
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2008/1/28, Maxey L. <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> If you haven't seen this already it is worth a look, also very
> uselful as an introduction to people who may not know that much about
> the Wall, so please pass it on.
>
> http://chromovision.com/films/Wall.wmv
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