That's the way it is for most of us.
I've gotten a little teaching money out of it. No grantss. And I've
rarely been paid for a reading. But that's the brass ring. Those
revenues do exist. Not for most of us.
Halvard Johnson wrote:
> Let's see. Over some forty years of poetry writing
> I can count the number of times I've received "ancillary
> revenues" from it on the fingers of one . . . well,
> maybe two . . . hands.
>
> Hal, not complaining
>
> "Am I wrong, or are fewer and fewer people
> using the word 'Weltschmerz' these days?"
> --Christopher Howell
>
> Halvard Johnson
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>
> On Dec 14, 2007, at 10:08 AM, TheOldMole wrote:
>
>> Poetry's kind of a loss leader. It's an odd business, where you give
>> away your primary product (the poem) in the hopes of receiving
>> ancillary revenues (university jobs, readings, grants). I mentioned
>> this once to Don Finkel, who replied, you're absolutely right, and
>> try explaining that to the IRS when you get audited."
>>
>> Halvard Johnson wrote:
>>> Seems to me that poetry, unlike most prose, lives (or should live)
>>> in a gift economy.
>>> I've been giving mine away for years and years and years (which
>>> doesn't mean it's
>>> of no value to me, its primary reader).
>>>
>>> Hal
>>>
>>> "We are in the age of nerves. The muscle hangs,
>>> Like a memory, in museums . . ."
>>> --Vicente Huidobro
>>>
>>> Halvard Johnson
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>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~halvard/vidalocabooks.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2007, at 5:37 AM, kasper salonen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree Mole. the issue of ownership/permission is tricky in poetry,
>>>> because it is the outcome of the writer's (sometimes questionable)
>>>> artifice & it's something the poet HAS & OWNS & loves as an entity --
>>>> theft is a very unlikely scenario, especially for marginal or
>>>> underground-upcoming poets, but it's an automatic fear because of the
>>>> nature of a poet's work.
>>>>
>>>> copyright has come up recently for me, because I'm co-authoring a
>>>> collection of my & four other poets' work; we don't have the money to
>>>> purchase legal copyrights, but while the potential for theft of our
>>>> poems exists, it is a marginal & unlikely threat especially since our
>>>> collection will probably only find its way into the hands of a couple
>>>> hundred people, at best. the initiator & informal 'leader' of our
>>>> project, Alex Fear, said that the existence of our poems in a bound,
>>>> hard-copy, published book is enough to establish a copyright (or a
>>>> precedent, should someone be weird or foolish enough to use our poetry
>>>> elsewhere without permission *knock on wood*), even if it isn't
>>>> authorised in legal documents per se.
>>>>
>>>> what do you think, how important is a purchased copyright? absolutely
>>>> necessary? optional? not worth the trouble?
>>>>
>>>> KS
>>>>
>>>> On 14/12/2007, TheOldMole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> I think she goes a little overboard with someone who sends copies
>>>>> of a
>>>>> poem to her friends, but otherwise right on.
>>>>>
>>>>> andrew burke wrote:
>>>>>> Nothing new here, but Wendy Cope attacking the non-copyright use of
>>>>>> poems on the Net:
>>>>>> http://books.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2223830,00.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tad Richards
>>>>> http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/
>>>>> http://opusforty.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> The moral is this: in American verse,
>>>>> The better you are, the pay is worse.
>>>>> --Corey Ford
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Tad Richards
>> http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/
>> http://opusforty.blogspot.com/
>>
>> The moral is this: in American verse,
>> The better you are, the pay is worse.
>> --Corey Ford
>
--
Tad Richards
http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/
http://opusforty.blogspot.com/
The moral is this: in American verse,
The better you are, the pay is worse.
--Corey Ford
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