A similar issue: Brill recently announced that the publication of a particular periodical will
cease at the end of 2007. This periodical has a paper version and an online vrsion at
IngentaConnect.
I wrote to them to ask for information on whether the online version would remain aaccessible to
institutions which subscribed during the lifetime of the periodical, and recieved no response.
-Chuck Jones-
Blegen Library
American School of Classical Studes at Athens
---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:57:03 +0100
>From: "Vrolijk, A.J.M." <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Encyclopaeida of Islam Three
>To: [log in to unmask]
>
>Dear Andreas,
>
>Leiden University tries to hold on to the online version of EI3 in
>combination with the printed version - as long as our money lasts.
>The problem you mention is not limited to Brill only: if you discontinue
>a subscription to an online resource from any publisher you end up with
>nothing. Here at Leiden there is a never-ending discussion about hanging
>on to print, but when we really have to make a choice we often opt for
>the online version, because they are so much easier to search and
>consult. Our readers have become so much accustomed to accessing
>journals and bibliographies online that many of them have lost the knack
>of finding printed volumes on the shelf.
>There is one other thing: although curators and subject specialists
>generally worry about the future of our collections, managers usually
>point out that they have to spend their budget to satisfy the actual
>needs of our users rather than those of future generations. I suppose
>you remember Groucho Marx, who once said: 'Why should I do anything for
>the future? What has the future ever done for me?'
>
>With best regards,
>
>Arnoud Vrolijk
>
>Dr Arnoud Vrolijk
>Curator of Oriental Manuscripts & Rare Books
>Special Collections Department
>Leiden University Library
>P.O. Box 9501
>2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands
>Tel. + 31 71 527 2867
>Fax + 31 71 527 2836
>E-mail [log in to unmask]
>library.leiden.edu
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Middle Eastern and Islamic Library Collections and Bibliography
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Auchterlonie
>Sent: vrijdag 7 december 2007 14:09
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Encyclopaeida of Islam Three
>
>Posted to the list on bahelf of Andreas Drechsler
>(andreas.drechsler@uni-
>bamberg.de)
>
>Hello to the list from Bamberg
>
>we are debating here in our library on how to deal with the
>EI3/Encyclopedia of Islam Online or however you want to call this
>obscure product. Obscure not content wise but selling wise. It is still
>unclear to me and my colleagues here in the library on how to deal with
>what Brill is offering. There is a consortium of German libraries
>negotiating with Brill and for now most of the libraries opted for the
>license version meaning the very hefty yearly fee which in the end
>would give you no content at all (current status of the negotiations).
>
>The other option is to buy the rights for the contents of the database
>for an exorbitant fee and then pay another yearly fee for hosting.
>
>What is the general opinion of colleagues in libraries? How do
>individual libraries proceed? Do individial libraries already know how
>the rights on the contents look? Is there a yearly CD-ROM giving you the
>contents bought so far? What will be the case with the printed edition
>of the EI3/Encyclopedia of Islam Online? Will it be published in print
>without an index? Will the articles be published in the chronological
>order they come in (which was communicated to participants of Melcom
>Int. in Sarajevo by the Brill representative) or will they be published
>in alphabetical order?
>
>I am trying to collect opinions and facts so we can conclude our process
>of opinion building here in Bamberg. It was my assumption that buying
>the content would be wiser but I would like to hear what others are
>doing or planning to do.
>
>Best wishes from rainy, grey and cold Bamberg
>
>Andreas Drechsler
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