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From: "Barry Alpert" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Poems by others: John Yau, "Stuffing yourself into a
blizzard"
Could you describe these in detail and indicate how they are more
generative than the examples of Duchamp/Stein/Cage for virtually every art
idiom?
Barry Alpert
On December 31, 2007 Frederick Pollack wrote:
There are other, more combative and, in several senses, more radical
Modernisms.
"Describe them in detail"? Hell no. That sounds like work. Or
scholarship. I can mention some names and terms that have meant something
for my work. Brecht / Epic Theater; his poetry, and later German styles
like Enzensberger's and Bachmann's. Oppen, Reznikoff / "Objectivism."
Russian Constructivism and Formalism - the utopian architecture of Leonidov,
the art of Rodchenko, Shklovsky's lucid and pertinent prose, Serge's novels.
The Expressionism of Beckmann and Benn. "Generative" ... interesting word.
Important to academics. I personally wouldn't care if every other poet in
the world splattered desyntacticated denarrativized delicate or off-the-wall
phrases over every page of print or the Web. I would go on trying to
capture my time (its hopes, guilts, prospects, stories, and, if you'll
excuse the expression, emotions and people) in verse, would commune with the
past and await, as I do, the judgment of the future.
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