Yeah, I agree that there's no way. Again, the mystery is -- who will take
it?
On 11/1/07, M. Borges Accardi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> OK, I'll bite.
>
> A place in Pueblo for $555 a month. Sounds fine.
>
> Except for, well,that still doesnot leave all much income to live on!
>
> Even if the cost of living in Pueblo is a lot less than in SoCal, I am not
> sure I could manage on $600 a month for everything else--
>
> I have a used economy car andmy car payment, gas and insurance are close
> to that.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joe green <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 3:40 pm
> Subject: Re: insanity
>
>
>
> Well, you could rent a place in Pueblo for $555 a month.
> Doesn't look that bad except for the large panty.
> "This apartment has the feel of your own home with its own private back
> yard
> nd patio to enjoy all of Colorados gorgeous seasons. It has an open and
> odern floor plan with a large kitchen opening to the living room. There
> are
> number of upgrades to include a ceiling fan in the kitchen, updated light
> ixtures with NEW faux sandstone tile in the bathroom. This home includes a
> onvenient utility room off of the kitchen w/washer and dryer hook ups.
> here is generous storage to include a large panty in kitchen, coat closet,
> inen closet, large BR closets + shelving in utility rm. This home is in a
> uiet and secure residential neighborhood and is across from a great
> ike/walking path. It is in an excellent location, nearby University,
> irport, and shopping/businesses/Pueblo Mall. This apartment home is a very
> nique finda great layout, well maintained, with the most responsive
> anagement in town!..."
>
>
> n 11/1/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> but you're innocent when you dream,
> when you dream,
> you're innocent when you dream
>
> $1,300+ rent is steep. pyramid-steep. that's almost 900€, I've seldom
> even seen rents that high in downtown Helsinki, which is an expensive
> area. when I start renting my own place it can't be above 450€/month
> or I'd have to eat ladybugs for my sustenance. or ladybirds as I
> prefer to call them british style.
>
> KS
>
> On 01/11/2007, M. Borges Accardi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I'd posted the job announcement originally because I felt for 12 units
> per semester $25,000 was an inadequate salary for university
> teaching--especially for a full time, tenure track position where office
> hours and committee work were expected.? That salary would work out to a
> take-home of about $1,300 a month (which would be a poverty salary in most
> areas). I know where I live, rent alone is more than that.
> >
> > For an entry-level (non-adjunct university teaching job), I would expect
> the salary to be at least in the $50-65,000.00 range.? An interesting
> thread has ensued though.
> >
> > Imagine $360,000 a year for teaching!? One can only dream.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: joe green <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 2:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: insanity
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh, if you are teaching English Literature I think (as I said above) a
> > salary $360,000 a year should be adequate compensation. I know that
> even in
> > our finest universities this is not offered. Above are my reflections
> when
> > trying to choose a period in which to specialize. In 93 or so. I felt
> that
> > the mental anguish of simply choosing and then having to actually teach
> > would mean I would require a salary of $90,000 a year. It's terrible,
> of
> > course, that teachers of English Literature are so underpaid. So here
> were
> > my thoughts when trying to choose! I was working at Cray Supercomputer
> then
> > and spent hours worrying about what period to specialize in. I then
> > considered my hourly rate and added dollars for mental anguish (I had
> some
> > acquaintance with English departments) and came up with this base rate.
> >
> > On 11/1/07, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Who told you that I do not teach literature. What are you talking
> about.
> > > What is your job?
> > >
> > > On 11/1/07, joe green <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but you are not teaching English Literature. Perhaps the above
> is
> > > > enough for teaching Creative Writing but it doesn't even begin to
> cover
> > > > the
> > > > mental anguish of teaching English Liteature -- which begins with
> > > deciding
> > > > what period in which to specialize. Here's a glimpse into my
> thoughts
> > > > years
> > > > agone when I had to choose.
> > > >
> > > > English Literature:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Have the lesser poems of Anglo-Saxon bards been appreciated
> enough?
> > > > Do enough young people know the word "kenning?" Would it be
> > > > nice to curl up by the fire in the long winter evenings we have
> > > > here and study Old Icelandic? Should I choose Anglo-Saxon?
> > > > Perhaps with enough work I could write a pleasant little
> > > > fairy story as I clench my pipe between tobacco-stained
> > > > teeth and chafe in my tweeds. Choice 1: Anglo-Saxon Literature
> > > >
> > > > 2. Ok. So I stare at Durer prints long and long and ever since
> > > > graduating high school have been prepared for life in the
> > > > 12th (the greatest of all) centuries. I know it was really
> > > > St. Don Bosco who invented basketball and can timor mortis
> > > > conturbat me with the best of them. Choice 2: Medieval
> Literature
> > > >
> > > > 3. The Renais... Hard to spell but good sex at last. (Medieval sex
> > > > is too much like what happened in the cloakroom of St. Cecilia's
> > > > in 1962). Marlowe's mighty line (What's your sign?), probably
> > > > worlds of sonnet sequences not yet completely explained. The
> > > > chance to entertain students with "jug, jug, jug, tereau tereau"
> > > > or a birthday bash for Thomas Nashe. Shakespeare and the chance
> > > > to know where all those book titles came from. I also suspect
> that
> > > > Shakepeare specialists are deferred to in courts of law and
> > > > gatherings of high school teachers taking a class for the summer.
> > > > A chance for a dotage a bit more dashing than that expected of
> > > > medievalists. Expansive explanations of bawdy and the
> significance
> > > > of nothing in Hamlet. "The wild dog shall flesh his tooth in
> every
> > > > innocent" and a glance at a widow now and then. Choice
> 3: Renais...
> > > > Literature.
> > > >
> > > > 4. The (as they say) 17th century. Donne undone with Mary. The
> > > necessity
> > > > of Eliot. The laying on of sensibility. Wit. Perhaps I could
> > > > specialize in Herrick and dream of cream and strawberries and
> > > > niplets and Old Ben and a parsonage among the daffodils. Or --
> > > > the great tone poems of Sir Thomas Browne.
> > > >
> > > > 5. The 18th century -- Age of Pope or Age of Johnson. A chance of
> an
> > > > invite to the White House or of, at least, entertaining Canadian
> > > > ladies on trains. Belindas &c. If Pope, a chance to dress
> > > > in a periwig and spit vituperation in heroic couplets with the
> > > > other fellows in the room hilariously dubbed "Gin Alley" at
> > > > the 18th century scholars conference. Automatic justification
> > > > for plotting against the radical dismals in the MLA. I am not
> > > > stout enough to carry off a Johnson speciality but are we
> > > > really satisfied that we know how many times Boswell had the
> > > > clap and don't we need yet another fellow recounting the story
> > > > of Johnson and the ghostly bishop by kicking the rock? Also
> > > > I am very good on Tom Jones and at sipping coffee and chatting
> > > > about the great bubble and have a quite new exegesis of Robinson
> > > > Crusoe ready. Might have to read Clarissa. Ah, my dear God.
> > > >
> > > > 6. The Romantics (we'll include Blake as is customary) What was the
> > > > sheath to which Byron refers? Expertise on Thomas Lovell Beddoes
> > > > already quite remarkable. But... suicide a possibility, of
> > > > course after mooning about the Protestant Cemetery in Rome
> > > > after being betrayed by my mistress. Also, am disturbed that
> > > > Keats apparently wanted to eat everything. Byron's letters
> > > > etc very appealing but will have to deal with the awful Germans
> > > > including Goethe whose last words "Give me your little paw" very
> > > > off putting. The Brontes -- must be dealt with and, in general,
> > > > except (as I now concede) for the sensibilty of Thomas Love
> Peacock
> > > > and a few others the period is like being stuck in a room
> > > > full of Barrymores forever. Good if confused sex, good if
> confused
> > > > talk, overseen by nautical gentlemen.
> > > >
> > > > 7. The Victorians. The Kraken is sexy but except for Dickens the
> > > > novels are wretched.
> > > >
> > > > 8. Modernism -- I understand that there is a center for the study
> > > > of Modernism. Let them do it.
> > > >
> > > > 9. More or less recent stuff. Very poor show in Poetry. Prose
> > > > somewhat better but I don't understand why reading most of it
> > > > is not conceived as similar to reading the novels of John
> > > > O'Hara when your adenoids are misbehaving.
> > > > So I wanted a salary of 90,000 a year -- at least. This was in
> 93. I'd
> > > > require at least 3 times that now.
> > > >
> > > > On 10/29/07, Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am also a teacher, Kenneth. And I can consider myself lucky
> because
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > do translations and teach evening adult courses to round the
> meager
> > > > > budget.
> > > > > I don't think I fit any prototype, and my colleagues are very
> > > different.
> > > > > It
> > > > > is a job but I like it, and that is why I still do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/29/07, Kenneth Wolman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M. Borges Accardi wrote:
> > > > > > > Pardon my posting here, but just saw this job announcement for
> > > > > creative
> > > > > > writing at Pueblo Col.? They're paying $25,000 for TWO semesters
> of
> > > > > teaching
> > > > > > and committee work?? Are they delusional? 12 units of teaching
> per
> > > > > semester
> > > > > > at $12,000 a semester??? I am aghast.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you. I am now cured:-).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------
> > > > > > Kenneth Wolman rainermaria.typepad.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I agree with the Chekhov character who, when in a crisis, he is
> > > > > > reminded that 'this, too, shall pass,' responds 'Nothing
> > > > > > passes.'"--Philip Roth
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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