I'm really bored this is my last day at Trafford can't we have something
more interesting than Sampling Densities?
 

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Czarnecki
Sent: 23 November 2007 13:51
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Subject: Re: Sampling density.

I really need to lie down.........now totally stunned. 


Adam
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-----Original Message-----
From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
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Rees
Sent: 23 November 2007 13:46
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Subject: Re: Sampling density.

i agree they should describe the reasoning behind the approach in the
report.  note i have merely argued that id "could" be appropriate
depending on former site use, the level of information on the site, the
proposed use and layout and size etc. 

noting Adams gasworks site if it is a small gasworks with an area of a
few hundred m2 a 40x40m sample strategy lots of samples would probably
end up smack in the middle of several holding tanks and tell you not a
lot you didn't already presume, but if it is a massive gasworks site
covering ~1km2 there could be large area of open space between holding
tanks that would not require such accurate testing.  the statement made
by the consultant is meaningless even though it may be correct and the
sampling strategy ay be appropriate

cheers

Gareth Rees
Contaminated Land Officer,
Harborough District Council,
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
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Anthony Carson
Sent: 23 November 2007 12:58
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Subject: Re: Sampling density.

Clare

It's an all too common argument. It's up to them to convince you of the
appropriateness of their approach, which presumably they have had to do
for regulators in these other authorities.

The sampling strategy should be justified with reference to the
pollutant linkages to be measured through the investigation. The
densities of sampling within such strategies should consider these
objectives.

It's maybe worth noting that using final site condition and placement of
structures, in themselves should not remove the need for confidence in
the results of a site investigation and risk assessment. They may well
mitigate risks however the risks should be adequately characterised
through investigation so that appropriate mitigation or remediation is
justified and controlled.

Anthony




-----Original Message-----
From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clare
Horton
Sent: 23 November 2007 11:45
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Sampling density.

Hello everyone,

greetings from Aberdeen.

I wonder if some of you could answer the following:

A Consultant has stated the following:

' It is our experience that a 40x40m sampling density is widely accepted
by Local Authorities as adequate to characterise the risk for planning
purposes for commercial/ industrial end use'.

Would you? I wouldn't but would like a consensus before deciding on my
next course of action.

Thanks,

Clare.



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