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Re: 'direct action' against poverty?

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Craig Newnes <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:43:40 -0000

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So, let's get this straight, you spent time "wondering" what to do while 
more people got ripped off. Now you are looking for ideas but don't want to 
do the obvious. If you knew a company was polluting a local water supply you 
would warn the community by naming the company. The community might then 
take community action. Is loan sharking not the equivalent?
C

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From: "Suzanne Elliott" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] 'direct action' against poverty?


hi craig

er... no thanks.

:o)

suzanne

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From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List on behalf of Craig Newnes
Sent: Tue 06/11/2007 12:25
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Subject: Re: 'direct action' against poverty?


Name and shame
C

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Suzanne Elliott <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] 'direct action' against poverty?


When I was working in the west midlands a couple of years ago, the cmht in 
which I was based became aware that one of those 'loan shark' companies were 
extremely active, perhaps even targeting, a few of the neighbourhoods where 
people who used our service tended to be housed.  We really felt like we 
wanted to do something about this, as many people were being taken advantage 
of through high pressure direct marketing techniques and 35%+ interest rates 
on loans.  However, I'm ashamed to admit that nothing came of this 'wanting 
to do something' and I wondered whether, should I come across this again, 
anybody on the list had ideas about 'direct action'?  Although individual 
workers in the team took up issues on an individual basis with the company 
on behalf of the individual service user they worked with, I'm wondering 
whether there was anything we could have done at a 'community' level?



suzanne



Suzanne Elliott

Clinical Psychologist

Treatment & Recovery Services

Swithland House (CTT East)

London Rd

Leicester

LE2 2PL

0116 225 5600

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Horrocks Matthew
Sent: 31 October 2007 15:27
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Subject: Re: 'direct action' against poverty?



Thanks for your posting John,



Whilst rightly pointing out that people could strive to remain mindful of 
areas where we might collude with unhelpful concepts, marginilisation, etc. 
I do think that there is tremendous positive value in your suggestion, and I 
for one would appreciate as many practical tips as possible from list 
members about helping people (including myself) to navigate the mire of 
social oppression in all its forms.



Apologies if my wording here isn't as clear and precise as others might be - 
I'm in a rush against the clock today and I also feel demonstrably 
inarticulate compared to many of you good people on this list, and some of 
the recent postings.



Having said that, best wishes to you all and keep up the good work, there 
have been some really interesting and useful developments shared here of 
late.



Cheers,



Matthew.




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From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List 
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Cromby
Sent: 31 October 2007 14:21
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Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] 'direct action' against poverty?



I think the statement is good and am happy to be associated with it if 
that's appropriate.



I also wonder if list members might be able to do more to combat poverty. In 
fact I suspect that some at least already are, but that it might be useful 
to share 'good practice' in this respect.



An example: a friend of mine works in benefit advice. One of her clients was 
being made homeless because she lost her job after being diagnosed with 
depression, and so had fallen behind on her mortgage repayments. She tried 
to claim for this on her mortgage repayment protection insurance, but was 
shocked to find out that she wasn't covered because the policy would only 
pay out in cases of 'mental illness' where people are 'under the direct care 
of a consultant psychiatrist' or some such wording.



My friend asked me about this, and I spoke to supportive psychiatrist that I 
know. He confirmed that the numbers of people 'under direct care' in this 
way are vanishingly small, and provided some relevant figures to back this 
up. Armed with these figures and some more info on prevalence and service 
delivery, my friend tackled the insurance company and made a veiled threat 
to publicise a policy wording which effectively excludes almost all possible 
claims. She accompanied this with a letter, kindly supplied by another 
psychiatrist, who In response to this they immediately offered an ex gratia 
'no liability' payment to her client that was sufficient to cover the 
mortgage arrears.



I'm sure people on the list have taken similar small initiatives. So what 
I'm suggesting is not so much that we share these kinds of stories; more 
that we share any resources, advice or tactics that were generated. For 
example, I can ask my friend to provide anonymised copies of the letters to 
the insurance company; where appropriate, these could be then used as 
templates by others.



I realise such initiatives are not without their paradoxes: this one, for 
example, involved a degree of collusion with an individualising psychiatric 
diagnosis. Personally, I see no contradiction between taking such action 
tactically, to help people facing immediate problems, whilst strategically 
and publicly continuing to challenge individualising scientifically and 
morally bankrupt ideas and practices; but I do realise that others may well 
feel differently.



J.

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