Almost the only wisdom I've learned about men is that they're furrier than
women - and I like that.
Chirs,
Candy (whoever she or it is)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
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>I of course wasn't talking about the reality of the experience, but a male
>fantasy (which I don't happen to share). It doesn't involve orgasm, just
>innocent surprise. Think of Mary as Candy (remember her?). Presumably Mary
>was exempt from Eve's curse and dropped her foal as easily as the beasts of
>the field.
>
> One of my exes, on the other hand, described giving birth as the most
> amazing sexual experience of her life. I sincerely doubt that this is
> typical, but it aparently happens. Almost the only wisdom men ever acquire
> about women is that they're all different.
>
> Mark
>
> At 11:15 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:
>>I was being ironic, Anny. Thanks for the tip about Groddeck whose ideas
>>I've briefly skimmed online. Most of his notions - and idiosync-ed
>>personality - are delightful counters to the leaden, linear scientists of
>>psychoramble. But re childbirth's pleasures, Groddeck was wrong.
>>Breastfeeding - now that's a distinct sexual pleasure; pity so few folks
>>are willing to acknowledge it.
>>
>>Chirs,
>>
>>Judy
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Anny Ballardini"
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>>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:54 AM
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>>Sand
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>>
>>>Which was supported by Groddeck.
>>>
>>>On 10/27/07, Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Ah yes, how could I have forgotten the orgiastic pleasures of giving
>>>>birth?
>>>>
>>>>Bad Mark, and Way-Off-The-Mark Mark
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:44 PM
>>>>Subject: audience Re: sentimentality & 'classism' Re: New at Sharp Sand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A thought about the appeal of the myth of the
>>>>virgin birth. Is it because men enjoy the fantasy
>>>>of a young girl wide-eyed with surprise at what's
>>>>happening in her nether regions?
>>>>
>>>>Bad Mark, bad Mark!
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