Sorry Wendy, that really doesn't work that well for me either. Unless they
already know how much bandwidth is going to be taken up by using various
technologies they can't say that - it's simply based on an assumption at
best. Besides - which different technologies are we talking about here? This
is where the terminology fails of course, since it covers a multitude of
sins! There are lots of 2.0 resources that don't actually use any great
bandwidth at all. I'd also be tempted to say that if a pharmaceutical
company has a problem with bandwidth they need to seriously reconsider their
approach to accessing the internet from the ground up, not by wholesale bans
on products.
As for security - that works as an argument slightly more, but not greatly.
Again, there are lots of resources that have no security issues, and there
are often work arounds for those as well - if you can't (for example)
download software onto individual machines, which I can understand, there
are usually alternatives. And rather than just say 'security issues' I'd be
more confident of a tech. support department that was rather more
forthcoming and looked at ensuring that they understood exactly what those
concerns are, and how to deal with them, rather than attempt a blanket
policy of hiding behind the word 'no' - however technically it's dressed up.
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From: UKEIG: the UK eInformation Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Wendy Warr
Sent: 01 October 2007 12:41
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Subject: Re: To Every Technology There Is A Season ...[!] [?]
Phil,
Bandwidth and security are two of the "obvious reasons" that closed
organizations such as pharmaceutical companies tend to use for avoiding
various Web 2.0 technologies.
Wendy
Dr. Wendy A. Warr
Wendy Warr & Associates
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Cheshire, CW4 7HZ, England
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-----Original Message-----
From: UKEIG: the UK eInformation Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Phil Bradley
Sent: 01 October 2007 12:25
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Subject: Re: To Every Technology There Is A Season ...[!] [?]
I'm not really sure what the 'obvious reasons' are, you know. I've just
spent a few minutes looking through Facebook groups for this subject
area,
and found some interesting stuff.
Firstly there IS a Facebook group for English Heritage members of staff,
which currently only has 14 people in it, but that's a start I suppose.
So
clearly there's some interest that staff have in being able to talk to
each
other outside the confines of the EH intranet (presuming you have one).
Perhaps one of the 'obvious reasons' is that the EH doesn't want this to
happen?
Anyway, let's continue... there are groups that cover English history,
and
there are also local/regional groups. Presumably EH doesn't want staff
getting involved in discussions on subjects like this? Presumably they
feel
that it's better that their staff expertise isn't shared in a way that's
helpful to people? Perhaps they want to try and control the
conversations?
How about the National Trust - not exactly the same type of organization
I'll agree, but a close enough match. There's the group "I'm a proud
member
of the National Trust and I don't yet draw a pension" which currently
has
over 200 members, 161 photographs, discussions and 50+ wall postings.
Seems
to be quite lively, and a really good way to share information back and
forth. Wouldn't it be nice if there was such a group for English
Heritage,
where staff could get involved, show their interest, enthusiasm and
knowledge for their subject, and help their members? Apparently not.
There's a "National Trust working holidays" group with 94 members,
photographs and discussions. Not forgetting the "I work for the National
Trust" group with 50+ members, with some interesting conversations
taking
place. There's a small student study group about the NT as well. Then we
have the "National Trust staff past and present" group, and the
"National Trust Working Holiday - Brecon 2007" group. In fact, I found
another 4 groups before I got bored.
Clearly there is a real interest - both in the organization itself and
its
subject coverage, and I can't believe that there isn't for the English
Heritage. I'm not convinced the "obvious reasons" actually exist - what
I
see is that English Heritage isn't interested in having conversations
with
members outside of their website, that they're not encouraging their
staff
to get involved with subjects of interest where they could really make a
difference.
I assume what you might mean by "obvious reasons" are that staff might
spend
time using Facebook, when they should be doing other things. If that's
the
case, the obvious way of looking at that is to assume that the
organization
don't actually trust their staff to use such resources sensibly. Perhaps
they ought not allow them access to computers at all in that case?
Moreover,
surely it's the job of everyone in an organization to get involved, to
learn
and develop? Apparently not, if you're in English Heritage. Surely as an
organization it should want to foster interest in the organisation
itself,
and for it's subject coverage? But if your organization prevents you
doing
that, clearly that isn't actually the case. Surely an organization
should
want to help educate, inform, entertain and involve members of the
public?
In the case of English Heritage, apparently not.
And that's really sad. Because the "obvious reasons" actually aren't
obvious
reasons at all. What a ban like this is actually saying is that English
Heritage doesn't trust its staff, isn't interested in getting involved
in
conversations with the very people it needs to engage with, and quite
simply
just doesn't care.
Suddenly those "obvious reasons" seem a bit silly to me.
Phil.
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-----Original Message-----
From: UKEIG: the UK eInformation Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On
Behalf Of SIMS, Diana
Some employers prevent their staff from accessing Facebook, as ours does
and for obvious reasons!
Diana Sims
Librarian
English Heritage
National Monuments Record
Kemble Drive
Swindon
SN2 2GZ
01793 414632
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