but the ego isn't a critic, it's a mindless fan. :)
poetry doesn't need acclaim, it needs attention. to get better, and to
do its job: affect people.
KS
On 10/10/2007, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Kasper Of course you are right but perhaps some writers ego's are big enough
> to recognise a good poem not need the acclaim of the masses etc :-)(but so
> saying VB always reads mine and he is a harsh critic
> P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of kasper salonen
> Sent: 10 October 2007 17:30
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: publishers (Re: A Question for Lurking List Members )
>
> it might as well not be, is what I'm saying
>
> KS
>
> On 10/10/2007, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Yes it is a poem
> > P
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of kasper salonen
> > Sent: 10 October 2007 16:28
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: publishers (Re: A Question for Lurking List Members )
> >
> > a poem isn't a poem if the author is the only reader. Schrödinger & his
> > cat..
> >
> > KS
> >
> > On 10/10/2007, Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Sure, Jon, but this isn't really news, is it? And even if that is the
> main
> > > or only reason to publish poems -- to get them on your vita -- such is
> the
> > > way of the world. Are you suggesting that poetry is too pure for such
> > social
> > > contexts? That appearing in a journal corrupts something previously
> > > undefiled? And how is the reductive focus of getting another line on
> your
> > > vita tied up with the epistemological issue of "realness"? Is an
> > unpublished
> > > poem on your hard drive even a poem at all?
> > >
> > > jd
> > >
> > > On 10/10/07, Jon Corelis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The main reason to publish poetry is as a credential to prove that
> > > > you're a "real" poet. This is quite literally the case: there's a
> > > > clear hierarchy of prestige among journals and book publishers, with
> > > > the level of prestige correlating exactly to the amount of "realness"
> > > > which publication in them confers on the poet published in them.
> > > >
> > > > To put it another way, more practically, and more bluntly, the reason
> > > > to publish poetry with a journal or book publisher is so you can add
> > > > the name of that journal or publisher to your resume.
> > > >
> > > > (I seem now to hear from all over the world scattered cries of
> > > > "EEEK!!! WHAT HE SAID!!!!!...")
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ===================================
> > > >
> > > > Jon Corelis www.geocities.com/jgcorelis/
> > > >
> > > > ===================================
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joseph Duemer
> > > Professor of Humanities
> > > Clarkson University
> > > [sharpsand.net]
> > >
> >
> >
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